John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

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I recently proposed an ultimate audio rack. A case with isolated cabinets for each component built from 1" aluminum stock with interlocking RF joints at all seams and heavy RF gaskets at the doors. The whole thing could be suspended to reduce the impact of vibration. It would be heavy enough to resist all but the most substantial vibration. All the internal connections would be through feedthroughs to prevent EMI from penetrating any of the shielded sections. A remote solution could be easily applied to control the devices inside. But then I realized that it would never sell- you can't see the precious objects inside.

This is the basis of the idea: http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/N9360-90704.pdf
 
I posted the difference between an aluminum and steel chassis. I found the results very interesting. The only advantage the steel had was on the AC line fundamental. But it also clearly showed how to reduce the radiated fundamental field so that the aluminum worked as well as the steel.
 
Where did you post it? How did it show you?


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That the aluminum handles everything above the fundamental and if you load a typical transformer even a small bit the leakage flux drops off an amazing amount.

Loading can be done by a magnetic shunt or just a resistor on the secondary. The resistor has two other advantages and one disadvantage. Dick I have no doubt from your work you understand the issue, so lets see who else will venture a guess.
 
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That the aluminum handles everything above the fundamental and if you load a typical transformer even a small bit the leakage flux drops off an amazing amount.

Loading can be done by a magnetic shunt or just a resistor on the secondary. The resistor has two other advantages and one disadvantage. Dick I have no doubt from your work you understand the issue, so lets see who else will venture a guess.

One advantage is that the resistor will damp the tank circuit from the transformer inductance-Rectifier junction capacitance. It may be best to put a small cap in series with it to limit dissipation though.
 
Wow! Why would Keith Johnson be contributing interesting audio papers, based on his own research, for the last 50 years? Could it be, that he, like me, likes to research audio problems in order to improve the listening quality of the medium?
He and I have independently done audio research, that takes man-months of effort, each time, without any payment from an employer. That is why I respect him, even though we are not on speaking terms, personally.

John, you posted a talk, I commented on the talk, you have typically gotten all emotional and applied it to his whole career. get a grip please ...
 
Unfortunately the paying customers in high end don't want complicated technical truth, they want a romance entwined with unobtainable fantastic imagination. Discussions like the one about how the boundary's of analog recording can be fit inside of a digital recording with room to spare are too disappointing and dull. Get a heavy disk spinning or even better reels spinning and the heart strings go twang and the pocketbooks open.

If you treat audio as a technical pursuit with a clear definable goal it has a rational endpoint and goalposts that can be attained through engineering. If audio is a mistress promising sensual delights that can be attained only after enduring some arduous tests and personal deprivation it fits the myth and give a purpose to the ongoing frustration that the sound is not good enough yet.

That dichotomy is visible at RMAF, which is typically an audio show with 'technical workshops'. In that light, trying to straddle both camps is pretty impossible. Johnson clearly tried his best. The talk by ESS's Eng VP on their Sabre DAC a few years back was also trying to strike a balance. You always run the risk that each camp feels short-changed.

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If you treat audio as a technical pursuit with a clear definable goal it has a rational endpoint and goalposts that can be attained through engineering.

Are you insinuating that audio designers/manufacturers and their work can actually be judged objectively?... 😱
Many would have to find other ways to make a living, so their fierce objections on such a stance are more than justified.

What is more interesting is the hobbyist angle, as the above suggests that our systems can be objectively evaluated as well. One would think that this would be a welcome change for the hobbyists. I mean, all car geeks would love to get free horsepower measurements and test lap runs on their tweaked rides, all computer geeks waste time on benchmarks, all home-cinema geeks would love to have free calibrations of their projectors; you get the idea....

Instead, audiophiles seem to have a vested interest to fight the... solid, fixed goalposts as well. And they do.
You see, with fixed goalposts, some systems will be proven decent, some will be proven great and other will be proven awful, if not defective.
Some will have to face the fact that they have invested $$$$ to get rubbish.
Some will be winners and some will be losers.

But, as we are all told nowadays, younglings are not supposed to play games with winners and losers (lest it forever scars their sensitive souls etc etc).
And there is no child more sensitive than a big boy with expensive toys. 😉
 
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Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Coupe electric Drive, 560kW 1000Nm instantaneous torque, all wheel drive. speed is limited/governed at 250km/h. cracks 8min on the Nurburgring last week check it out coming onto and on the straight at 6:50 onwards, sure looks like its got a fair bit left in the tank if it wasnt for the limiter. looks like he engages some sort of boost just going onto the straight, or maybe aero kit

This one isnt a concept car, its actually available. not sure of the price.

but the 0-100km/h isnt really any faster than the tesla model S 7 seat saloon. looks to handle better and sounds better, but still sounds odd. dunno what the range is.

Audi R8 and the new Honda NSX due in 2015 are also adding EV
 
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Ed Simon - looking forward to seeing your further noise measurements, including batteries.
In my silly tests of different conductors- copper, steel, potatoes, bananas, water, wine, mud - I've been picking up a lot of mains noise right out of the air. Interested to see what you are getting with better methods.

You need to go differential..double up on the bannanas.

If you want to try an actual experiment try driving a tweeter with 30kHz. With a bit of level you just may find although you don't hear a tone you can tell when it is on or off.

Every time I demonstrate this folks insist it must be subharmonics they hear.
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And everytime I explain why, folks forget..

The ear reacts to the energy by reducing it's sensitivity. Background noise reduces when the ultrasonics are on. Use sufficient energy, this will be very noticeable. As well as dangerous to your hearing. When I did the experiments, OSHA did not have limits or guidelines for ultrasonic exposure.


I've reported having sexual relations with Scarlett Johanssen.

I reported seeing the video on you tube. 😉

Its possible that the effects of emi are contributing to the "sound" of some well respected high end systems.
Agreed. And not necessarily far field rf, but rather, near field induction.

Demian: RMAF08 Adventures in Digital Formats ... Note his comment on line cords!

Hmmm...line cords...go figure. perchance, is it consistent with what I posted back in 2004?

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Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Coupe electric Drive, 560kW 1000Nm instantaneous torque, all wheel drive. speed is limited/governed at 250km/h. cracks 8min on the Nurburgring last week check it out coming onto and on the straight at 6:50 onwards, sure looks like its got a fair bit left in the tank if it wasnt for the limiter. looks like he engages some sort of boost just going onto the straight, or maybe aero kit

This one isnt a concept car, its actually available. not sure of the price.

but the 0-100km/h isnt really any faster than the tesla model S 7 seat saloon. looks to handle better and sounds better, but still sounds odd. dunno what the range is.

Audi R8 and the new Honda NSX due in 2015 are also adding EV

Unfortunately it costs $550k (416k euros) and posts a ring time similar to an E92 M3, which costs $55k base and came out 5 years ago.
 
Unfortunately it costs $550k (416k euros) and posts a ring time similar to an E92 M3, which costs $55k base and came out 5 years ago.

whats the damage on the gas version of the same car? surely thats a more valid price comparison, also as mentioned, its limited by law to 250km/h because its the production version. its also 1000lb heavier than the gas version, due to the battery I guess.

so, weve established that ECI are quicker, for now. I thought that was established some 20 pages ago ... you'll excuse me for saying that its not a revelation, or news to the manufacturer (or myself ...) pretty sure you could get around there quicker than both of them on a 5K motorbike (OK maybe 10K)
 
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