it isnt noticeable as an individual sound, I cant then hear the distortion separately and pick the 2 layers apart (thats the point of the technique). I cant say exactly the level it becomes audible from memory as i'm adjusting a fader (but i'll check). it does add to the overall tonality and depth; in the case of compression sidechain on a drum track, the dynamism.
I use nearfield studio monitors, or highly resolving in ear multidriver stage monitors, so more resolving of such things than the average far field or midfield speaker systems.
I use nearfield studio monitors, or highly resolving in ear multidriver stage monitors, so more resolving of such things than the average far field or midfield speaker systems.
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I wasnt happy with the Zaphod in the TV series, nor the Vogons. Restaurant at the end of the universe was probably my favorite and that restaurant also wasnt depicted well in the series. still an entertaining enough show, but for a big fan of the books, somewhat disappointing.
Yes, there will always be differences in the way people listen to audio. I listen from the perspective of whether I find the sound to be convincing in the sense of being in the presence of real musicians performing. If there happens to be "distortion" present in the live performance in the form of various things rattling, squeaking, humming in the background, or booming resonances, then that doesn't undermine my awareness of the 'liveness' of what I'm hearing.
OTOH, if I'm acutely aware that this is a completely mechanical reproduction, where the source of the sound is obviously that of speaker boxes, then it doesn't provide satisfaction. If someone else is more pleased by the capability of those boxes to perform to a certain standard, then that is perfectly reasonable - though I still find find it intriguing ...
OTOH, if I'm acutely aware that this is a completely mechanical reproduction, where the source of the sound is obviously that of speaker boxes, then it doesn't provide satisfaction. If someone else is more pleased by the capability of those boxes to perform to a certain standard, then that is perfectly reasonable - though I still find find it intriguing ...
it isnt noticeable as an individual sound, I cant then hear the distortion separately and pick the 2 layers apart (thats the point of the technique). I cant say exactly the level it becomes audible from memory as i'm adjusting a fader (but i'll check). it does add to the overall tonality and depth; in the case of compression sidechain on a drum track, the dynamism.
I use nearfield studio monitors, or highly resolving in ear multidriver stage monitors, so more resolving of such things than the average far field or midfield speaker systems.
But we could still use one of your enhanced tracks against the original in a side-by-side comparison à la AudioDiffmaker, no?
I've mailed Bill Waslo; Bill if you're reading this please chime in.
jan
Another point of view on the subject...
Take mp3@128kbps (oy vey!).
- Soundstage is there, as wel *** airiness, depth, positions et cetera.
- Tonal balance is there too
- Deitals are gone - the voice sound as a-capella of thounsand robots.
Damn the mp3 coders, they managed to compress the CD so much but preserve the soundstage and tonal balance. They definitely know which part of the sound wave represents which perceived "effect". I guess we should learn a bit from their studies.
Take mp3@128kbps (oy vey!).
- Soundstage is there, as wel *** airiness, depth, positions et cetera.
- Tonal balance is there too
- Deitals are gone - the voice sound as a-capella of thounsand robots.
Damn the mp3 coders, they managed to compress the CD so much but preserve the soundstage and tonal balance. They definitely know which part of the sound wave represents which perceived "effect". I guess we should learn a bit from their studies.
But we could still use one of your enhanced tracks against the original in a side-by-side comparison à la AudioDiffmaker, no?
I've mailed Bill Waslo; Bill if you're reading this please chime in.
jan
absolutely. I could probably copy the result to another track and invert the phase to see what remains when summed to the original
They didn't sound identical to me.
I hope I can pull this out for SY and Jan at BA, we can try again.
Oh, he probably used a Grado cartridge and a cheap D-A, to compare all-analog to all-analog plus one D-A (50KHz), and listened to it with Met 7's.
How much did I get right, Scott? '-)
No actually the D/A was quite good for it's day and the speakers were Peter Snell's last little bookshelf unit. Lot's of folks like the better Grados why do you knock them? The day I spend $1500 on a cart or use $100 capacitors will never come.
That is an interesting conclusion to draw from the simple fact that two people had different preferences in sound reproduction. I wonder how he would report his conclusions from the same conversation? "I was sitting next to this bloke who seemed not to notice the mid-range distortion and boosted artificial-sounding deep bass on the second system. He must be deaf!".
There are those who listen to the 'sound' of the setup, while others listen to the music.
The day I spend $1500 on a cart will never come.
$1499 special ?
IIRC Hitch-hiker started as a BBC radio series, not books. The TV version was nowhere near as good as the original radio one. It was available as a boxed set of 4 cassettes.qusp said:a big fan of the books
I know, ive heard the radio series too, its much better than the TV series, but I do prefer the books.
another disappointing character in the TV series was Marvin, who is portrayed as having a sort of dry android humor/sarcasm, which just didnt come across well with that joke of a costume. the passage where he convinces the battle tank to kill itself because its all so depressing is gold!
another disappointing character in the TV series was Marvin, who is portrayed as having a sort of dry android humor/sarcasm, which just didnt come across well with that joke of a costume. the passage where he convinces the battle tank to kill itself because its all so depressing is gold!
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I've just discovered that Innsbruck, Austria has an annual Towel Day:
File:Towelday-Innsbruck.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
where towels are hung, with large friendly letters reading "Don't Panic".
All good fortune, and Don't Panic,
Chris
File:Towelday-Innsbruck.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
where towels are hung, with large friendly letters reading "Don't Panic".
All good fortune, and Don't Panic,
Chris
That's great! There should be a reworking of the Heinrich Isaac song, to the effect of "Innsbruck, I must leave you, but I won't forget my towel".I've just discovered that Innsbruck, Austria has an annual Towel Day:
File:Towelday-Innsbruck.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
where towels are hung, with large friendly letters reading "Don't Panic".
All good fortune, and Don't Panic,
Chris
Heinrich Isaac (1450-1517) - Innsbruck, ich muss dich lassen - YouTube
Maybe a hand carved jade body from some 80 yr. old Japanese National treasure with an SRP of $7000, but maybe not. It's personal values, I have treated my nieces and nephews to dinners they could never afford at far more than that, for myself it's catholic dicipline.$1499 special ?
Frank instead of mixing two versions of the same track, one distorted, one not, why not compare the original track against a version with -60dB (or whartever) distortion added?
jan
addistortion.zip file here:
Freeware
Description:
http://www.stereophile.com/content/euphonic-distortion-naughty-nice-page-2
…
BTW There may be another testing method that shows better correlation to what we hear. Work in progress.
DIY Test Equipment for Audio and Ham Radio Enthusiasts
This test is applicable, so far, only to regulators.
… the reason its used this way is because it sounds more 'natural' and dynamic
Tell that to people who are using heavily “atmospherized ” recordings while marveling their newly acquired equipment (esssses, lips clicking, string touching ect)
The day I spend $1500 on a cart or use $100 capacitors will never come.
Same software for you Scott to enjoy your $15,000 cartridge.
(I even heard a radio recording of a sonata played on an all 14k gold flute)
George
addistortion.zip file here:
Freeware
Description:
Euphonic Distortion: Naughty but Nice? Page 2 | Stereophile.com
Thanks Pavel. Console application - does that mean I have to run it as a DOS-style text interface? I'll give it a whirl.
jan
Hi Jan,
I played with addistortion about 4 years ago. I know I ran it under Windows, but not sure if in DOS box or directly from command line. Give it a try.
Cheers,
Pavel
I played with addistortion about 4 years ago. I know I ran it under Windows, but not sure if in DOS box or directly from command line. Give it a try.
Cheers,
Pavel
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