. But did that ever really exist in significant numbers? Numbers greater than today?
Yes, that is alleged to be the case by the music industry. Can't remember where I read about it right now, but if I find it I'll put up a link.
I suspect that many here who contribute know or care little about highest quality audio. Sure, we can all get along with mid-fi, but just like we could get along with a low cost American car, but isn't there more in driving a BMW, Mercedes, Porsche for example? It is the same with audio. Hi end audio has lots of people in it who hardly know what they are doing, or else tend to overcharge for what they produce, but deliberately ignoring hi end audio entirely, just keeps you down to mid-fi performance. Is this what you want?
The chief difference being that even Helen Keller could feel the difference between a Honda Civic from a Porsche 911, whereas it's been shown time and time again that high-end audio is something of a mirage at the top.
A better analogy would be a 911 versus a 911 with all of the Porsche appearance packages (carbon fiber trim, full natural leather, etc) and maybe the sport exhaust (no performance increase because it still retains all catalytic converters). Doesn't perform any better, but it's more premium.
Bottom line: Was there ever a significant proportion of the population who sat down to listen to recorded music and nothing else? Outside the audiophile fringe - us.
I remember back in college (70's) that it was quite common. There was often chemical assistance, though.
I also remember it from school years, but how much did it exist outside of that? Are our memories skewed by thinking our school year experiences were the same for the general population?
Still, it's a shame that people don't want to study audio design, because they might learn something useful that might even help their own system.
I don't expect anyone here in particular to buy hi end components, they are too expensive, even for me, just like I would like a Boxter, but it would not be worth the investment these days for me. But the DESIGN of the Boxter could be very interesting to me. It is the same with my designs, I can't afford the more upscale ones, myself, and if I have anything special, it is because I bought it used, it was given to me by a grateful customer, or something I designed myself. So it isn't the cost of things that impress me, but the ENGINEERING that goes into many hi end designs. It is the engineering that I would like to discuss, not the cost or the shape of the cabinet.
I don't expect anyone here in particular to buy hi end components, they are too expensive, even for me, just like I would like a Boxter, but it would not be worth the investment these days for me. But the DESIGN of the Boxter could be very interesting to me. It is the same with my designs, I can't afford the more upscale ones, myself, and if I have anything special, it is because I bought it used, it was given to me by a grateful customer, or something I designed myself. So it isn't the cost of things that impress me, but the ENGINEERING that goes into many hi end designs. It is the engineering that I would like to discuss, not the cost or the shape of the cabinet.
but limit the participants to those who answer all these questions correctly and does it in one hour.
Are you a GENIUS? Find out with a few of the most fiendish brain-teasers ever | Daily Mail Online
THx-RNMarsh
Are you a GENIUS? Find out with a few of the most fiendish brain-teasers ever | Daily Mail Online
THx-RNMarsh
It is slippery area. 🙂
For Porche 911, Honda, or any other, we are correctly informed about any technical detail, from tyres to vanity mirror..but in hi end audio..a lot off disgusting "magic", and unbelievable claims..
For Porche 911, Honda, or any other, we are correctly informed about any technical detail, from tyres to vanity mirror..but in hi end audio..a lot off disgusting "magic", and unbelievable claims..
Lets begin.... a new subject.... high-end engineering.
Rebranding engineering as something different than it already is?
high-end engineering.
THx-RNMarsh
Do I detect a contradictio in terminus, pun perhaps? 😉
Jan
but limit the participants to those who answer all these questions correctly and does it in one hour.
Are you a GENIUS? Find out with a few of the most fiendish brain-teasers ever* | Daily Mail Online
THx-RNMarsh
That's tricky - as reading a rag like Daily Mail is an automatic fail.....
I have to ask, Mark - when did people ever sit down and just listen to recorded music?
Bottom line: Was there ever a significant proportion of the population who sat down to listen to recorded music and nothing else? Outside the audiophile fringe - us.
There appears to be a strong positive relationship between the propensity to sit down thusly and the availability and popularity of cannabinoids. Hence, all worries are unwarranted.
f disgusting "magic"
Interesting to describe it as disgusting. Looking at this webpage: Home | moralfoundations.org Item 5 describes an axis of moral perception pertaining to disgust. Is audio "magic" a moral violation?
There appears to be a strong positive relationship between the propensity to sit down thusly and the availability and popularity of cannabinoids.
Are a lot of people sitting down and listening to albums in Colorado today?
All the population I knew at the time did exactly that.Bottom line: Was there ever a significant proportion of the population who sat down to listen to recorded music and nothing else? Outside the audiophile fringe - us.
Takes me back, lol.I remember back in college (70's) that it was quite common. There was often chemical assistance, though.
Dan.
Throughout my servicing career I have always studied and marveled at the ingenuity/engineering that goes into manufacturing known performing and reliable product at low/affordable prices, and add to that the steps and stations required to manufacture such product in high volume.So it isn't the cost of things that impress me, but the ENGINEERING that goes into many hi end designs. It is the engineering that I would like to discuss, not the cost or the shape of the cabinet.
I have always reckoned that every manufacturer should have experience of a general electronics repair centre, and see other/better ways.
Of some of the Hi-End stuff I have seen/repaired, it can be painfully obvious that the 'bespoke' small manufacturer has exactly zero idea in terms of serviceability/longevity/layout etc.
Sure the designer may have a good/great schematic, but next to no understanding of how to put a great product together.
Great engineering takes into account all requirements, and it is of great pleasure to see.
Dan.
Hmmm, not sure what you mean.All Dan? All? Perth is a strange place.
I mean, good engineering is delivering a suitable product that performs as advertised, is long term reliable, is serviceable, uses minimum resources, and is ergonomic...etc, etc.
Dan.
PS - Perth may be strange to you, but we like down here in this corner, well away from all the nonsense overtaking the world.
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