I emailed Jens the other night to see if he had any objections to a group buy of his leach design. It was o.k. with him. Now would there be any interest out there for this project. There are several versions, ie, the 10 transistor and 6 transistor version. I am currently waiting delivery of my AAK symasym boards to build. I would like a project waiting when i finish them. Let me know of any interest in the Leach clone project. The board i am talking about can be seen at www.deltaaudio.com
You must have read my mind, I was about to email Jens myself! I would be interested in a few pair of boards, depending on the price point. Does anyone know of a good PCB house? I'll ask around at work to see if any of the board designers know of good/cheap places. I'll also try to get up with BrianGT since he is well versed in this now.
Regards,
David
Regards,
David
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I think there is a place in Atlanta that does boards fairly reasonable. If we can get a large board order the per unit price will drop significantly. I was planning on bridging two boards for 300+ watts. The parts would be cheaper than 200volt parts for the super leach. If Jens decides to do a group buy on the Super Leach i would of course buy some of them also. What are you wanting the 6 or 10 unit version. Tad
I think there is a place in Atlanta that does boards fairly reasonable. If we can get a large board order the per unit price will drop significantly. I was planning on bridging two boards for 300+ watts. The parts would be cheaper than 200volt parts for the super leach. If Jens decides to do a group buy on the Super Leach i would of course buy some of them also. What are you wanting the 6 or 10 unit version. Tad
Tad,
I was interested in a 6 transistor version, but will go with the flow of interest.
Are you thinking of PhotoCircuits in Peachtree City? My dad used to work for them, I'll give them a shot at a quote. I've already sent emails off to Flextron Systems, who a co-worker has recommended, and BrianGT, for advice on where to get a good value for boards.
Below are the specs I included in my Request For Quote, this is for the 6 transistor version, but I would be ok with which ever one generates the most interest. The specifics about board color thickness, and plating options are also not fixed, but these are generic values. Feel free to use this list when asking for quotes.
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Material Type: FR-4
Finished Copper Thickness: 2 oz
Board Thickness: .062”
Board Dimensions: 4”x9”
Solder Mask: Both Sides
Color: Black
Silkscreen: Component Side
Minimum Line Width: 12 mil
Minimum Line Spacing: 12 mil
Number of Drill Sizes: 11
Number of Holes: 691
Smallest Hole: .6mm
Surface Mount Pads: Yes
Number of SMD Pads- Comp. side: 8
Number of SMD Pads- Solder side: 0
Finest Pitch SMD: 0603
Array: No
X-outs allowed: yes
Electrical Test: No
Plating: Copper
UL Approved: No
Quantity:
Please quote price break points up to 100 boards.
Lead Time:
Very flexible, approximately 6-8 weeks.
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The next step would be to see how much interest this generates. A wiki would be nice to keep tabs on quantities. I'll work on one unless someone else who has done one before wants to knock one out quickly.
We need to at least specify the number of boards wanted, the number of transistors wanted (6 or 10), the color of the board, and whether or not gold plating is desired.
Regards,
David
I was interested in a 6 transistor version, but will go with the flow of interest.
Are you thinking of PhotoCircuits in Peachtree City? My dad used to work for them, I'll give them a shot at a quote. I've already sent emails off to Flextron Systems, who a co-worker has recommended, and BrianGT, for advice on where to get a good value for boards.
Below are the specs I included in my Request For Quote, this is for the 6 transistor version, but I would be ok with which ever one generates the most interest. The specifics about board color thickness, and plating options are also not fixed, but these are generic values. Feel free to use this list when asking for quotes.
______________________________________________________
Material Type: FR-4
Finished Copper Thickness: 2 oz
Board Thickness: .062”
Board Dimensions: 4”x9”
Solder Mask: Both Sides
Color: Black
Silkscreen: Component Side
Minimum Line Width: 12 mil
Minimum Line Spacing: 12 mil
Number of Drill Sizes: 11
Number of Holes: 691
Smallest Hole: .6mm
Surface Mount Pads: Yes
Number of SMD Pads- Comp. side: 8
Number of SMD Pads- Solder side: 0
Finest Pitch SMD: 0603
Array: No
X-outs allowed: yes
Electrical Test: No
Plating: Copper
UL Approved: No
Quantity:
Please quote price break points up to 100 boards.
Lead Time:
Very flexible, approximately 6-8 weeks.
______________________________________________________
The next step would be to see how much interest this generates. A wiki would be nice to keep tabs on quantities. I'll work on one unless someone else who has done one before wants to knock one out quickly.
We need to at least specify the number of boards wanted, the number of transistors wanted (6 or 10), the color of the board, and whether or not gold plating is desired.
Regards,
David
Is it possible to use the 10 transistor board, but only populate 2*N number of transistors? Say 4 if one needed a lower power amp, or 6, or 8?
That would make the decision of which board to use rather trivial.
Regards,
David
That would make the decision of which board to use rather trivial.
Regards,
David
Count me in for at least 2 boards, I would be interested in either the 6 or 10 transistor version but would prefer the 10.
Can you go 3 or 4 oz on the copper traces?
Can you go 3 or 4 oz on the copper traces?
As soon as i gauge the interest in this project i am going to take suggestions as to the copper thickness and other aspects which might be pertinent to improving the layout. This is a large board and to keep the per unit price down i would like to order at least 50. Tad
I know you just said you weren't soliciting suggestions for layout improvements yet, but...
How about make the boards so that the output stage could be separated from the front end - like that shown in the superamp redesign thread. IIRC, it wouldn't take too much rework to make the needed connections fit a SIL connector.
If you were to make a 5 output pair board and provide a separation point between the first three pairs and the last two, we could just snap off the unused portion if we want to make a smaller version. Even better in my book would be to make it a 6 pair board, so we could go 3 and 3 if desired.
How about make the boards so that the output stage could be separated from the front end - like that shown in the superamp redesign thread. IIRC, it wouldn't take too much rework to make the needed connections fit a SIL connector.
If you were to make a 5 output pair board and provide a separation point between the first three pairs and the last two, we could just snap off the unused portion if we want to make a smaller version. Even better in my book would be to make it a 6 pair board, so we could go 3 and 3 if desired.
Bob, I am not to adept at drawing pcb schematics. The files for Jens board are readily available to us and I was planning on using his design. Separating the input from the output has many advantages i just do not have the program to draw it. The size of the current board Jens has drawn i believe is outside the current limits of Eagle lite.
At present i am researching the availablity of a low priced cnc router to use for small quantities of pcb's like this project. I would very much like to have the capability to mill out board projects for some of the ideas on this forum. Regards Tad Ellis
At present i am researching the availablity of a low priced cnc router to use for small quantities of pcb's like this project. I would very much like to have the capability to mill out board projects for some of the ideas on this forum. Regards Tad Ellis
Drat - I was hoping that we had another expert in line. Yes, the board is too big for the free version of Eagle, Jens has the full version.
Wonder how far back we have to go to find a common ancestor? 😉
Wonder how far back we have to go to find a common ancestor? 😉
I might have time to pimp it up if Jens is happy to send me his files, but I can't do any prototyping like I did with the Krell.
Be cool brother. The Feds don't know about my pink Cadillac and collection of wide brimmed hats... 😉
Al, do you have time to do a project like that with the AAK boards coming for you to assemble. Your layout expertise would be graciously received on my part anyway. Thanks Tad
Leach amp board
TAD
Pending final costs, please cont me in for at least 10 boards (10 transistor version prefered).
Although some of the requested changes for the board design seem interesting, I would rather have boards that are exactly like the original board by Jens Rasmussen.
Thanks for your effort.
LS
TAD
Pending final costs, please cont me in for at least 10 boards (10 transistor version prefered).
Although some of the requested changes for the board design seem interesting, I would rather have boards that are exactly like the original board by Jens Rasmussen.
Thanks for your effort.
LS
What kind of output is the 10 transistor version capable of? And these are full class a arent they? Also anyone know roughly what the parts cost to fill these boards are?
Although some of the requested changes for the board design seem interesting, I would rather have boards that are exactly like the original board by Jens Rasmussen.
I agree, count me in for at least 4 boards.
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