Bridges and buildings do something intrinsically useful; animal racing does not. It makes money at the animals' expense just for entertainment purposes.
Animal Aid's Race Horse Death Watch was launched during the 2007 Cheltenham Festival.
Its purpose is to expose and record every on-course thoroughbred fatality in Britain.
https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
Its purpose is to expose and record every on-course thoroughbred fatality in Britain.
https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
Did you know most kkill their dogs if they broke a leg during the races (often) cause they are not monney catchers anymore... Disgusting.
Greyhound racing is a multi-million pound gambling industry in the UK.
Most greyhound racing takes place at empty tracks as races are live streamed worldwide around the internet and into high street bookmakers.
https://www.aagr.org.uk/greyhound-racing-in-the-uk/
Most greyhound racing takes place at empty tracks as races are live streamed worldwide around the internet and into high street bookmakers.
https://www.aagr.org.uk/greyhound-racing-in-the-uk/
My friend only eats square pieces of meat without any fat. It has to be geometrical otherwise it will make him feel bad ,...such a nice guy. My GF won't touch anything with bones. It has to be fillet. Not a trace of blood either.
Hypocrisy will be undoing of Western people. It makes one almost wish for a hordes of Neanderthals to invade , rape your women and push your faces into mud for reality check. meh
Hypocrisy will be undoing of Western people. It makes one almost wish for a hordes of Neanderthals to invade , rape your women and push your faces into mud for reality check. meh
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In the interests of informed inquiry, I would be interested to know if Jumps racing, known as National Hunt in the UK and Ireland is the most dangerous for Horses and Jockeys.
https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
FWIW, in the UK we have The Flat racing, usually on (watered) turf in summer which is my bag. Then in winter, NH Hurdles which are 3'6"" light obstacles and Chases which are 4'6" heavier fences.
The Carnage of the big Handicap Chases with big fields like the Aintree Grand National is familiar. And the NH Cheltenham Festival is a most exciting Spring event that I always watch, mainly for the intense UK/Irish rivalry and the beautiful scenery. And the Irish generally stuff us... 😳
National Hunt racing is all geldings, since the fences play havoc with colts' "undercarriage".
I would guess that flat racing on turf has a low injury rate. But I don't know the figures.
Anyway, crack on. I think there is room for improvement in this whole malarkey. The figures are shocking. But it is too easy to say it should just be banned, IMO.
https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
FWIW, in the UK we have The Flat racing, usually on (watered) turf in summer which is my bag. Then in winter, NH Hurdles which are 3'6"" light obstacles and Chases which are 4'6" heavier fences.
The Carnage of the big Handicap Chases with big fields like the Aintree Grand National is familiar. And the NH Cheltenham Festival is a most exciting Spring event that I always watch, mainly for the intense UK/Irish rivalry and the beautiful scenery. And the Irish generally stuff us... 😳
National Hunt racing is all geldings, since the fences play havoc with colts' "undercarriage".
I would guess that flat racing on turf has a low injury rate. But I don't know the figures.
Anyway, crack on. I think there is room for improvement in this whole malarkey. The figures are shocking. But it is too easy to say it should just be banned, IMO.
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The problem is, in the US at least, that for many years the horse racing industry has known about this problem and has paid the minimum amount of lip service to it that they could get way with. Year after year they claimed to be trying to address it while really not accomplishing anything at all.
I really doubt that there can be a solution to it anyhow. Pushing thoroughbred horses to run as fast as they can with their very fragile leg bones is inheritingly a dangerous thing to do. Some horses are going to break the bone.
And then they are simply killed, because they have instantaneously change from being an asset to a liability for their owners.
Make no mistake about it. This is at its root simply a business to make a lot of money. The horses are just a disposable part of it. Never mind that they are living beings with feelings. That doesn't matter. It's all about the money.
Nothing I've seen here changes my mind about calling for a complete ban on horse racing.
I really doubt that there can be a solution to it anyhow. Pushing thoroughbred horses to run as fast as they can with their very fragile leg bones is inheritingly a dangerous thing to do. Some horses are going to break the bone.
And then they are simply killed, because they have instantaneously change from being an asset to a liability for their owners.
Make no mistake about it. This is at its root simply a business to make a lot of money. The horses are just a disposable part of it. Never mind that they are living beings with feelings. That doesn't matter. It's all about the money.
Nothing I've seen here changes my mind about calling for a complete ban on horse racing.
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The Celteach (family of Celtic tribes) were and are great horsemen. Lots of so called historical facts just aren't. The fallacy has held for along time that the Celts originated around the Black Sea and Middle East. That's where the Greeks first came into contact with them but in fact their beginning place was the Steppes and foothills of the Himalayas in what is now north west China.
All the peoples that came out of the Steppes were great horsemen, that's how the Celts first they made their way first around the Black Sea and Middle east but then they continued on to the Great Forest/Europe. Fast forward to today and they are an important part of racing scene in the UK and to an extent in the USA. I used to be an ardent spectator and horse gambler but when you've seen a horse fall and scream in pain for what, for some people to make money from. The same for show jumping and dressage.
It's the old power trip from when the monkey/hominid was able via weapons to dominate other life forms and to exterminate some species.There was a time when no Celt would ever contemplate, let alone kill a wolf, we respected them as fellow hunters. I think the ancient Greeks showed the way for mankind to truly advance with the Olympic Games. What a shame it's now riven with drug taking.
All the peoples that came out of the Steppes were great horsemen, that's how the Celts first they made their way first around the Black Sea and Middle east but then they continued on to the Great Forest/Europe. Fast forward to today and they are an important part of racing scene in the UK and to an extent in the USA. I used to be an ardent spectator and horse gambler but when you've seen a horse fall and scream in pain for what, for some people to make money from. The same for show jumping and dressage.
It's the old power trip from when the monkey/hominid was able via weapons to dominate other life forms and to exterminate some species.There was a time when no Celt would ever contemplate, let alone kill a wolf, we respected them as fellow hunters. I think the ancient Greeks showed the way for mankind to truly advance with the Olympic Games. What a shame it's now riven with drug taking.
The human being from nearly all historical backgrounds has studied animal performance and behaviour for 1000's of years.
There is plentiful archaeological evidence to suggest that certain animal types and most likely born as a result of human intervention, have been revered and have been given pride of place in communities and the rituals these communities have undertaken.
The Speed and Endurance of a Horse was a desirable requirement way before the Thoroughbred Registration was ever thought of.
The foundation of the Thoroughbred Registration was to prove a lineage back to Three Foundation Horses, The Byerly Turk, Godolphin Arabian and Darley Arabian.
The Human knew these Horses evolved as a Human Intervention from horses that were naturally living in an environment where their predators were very fast. Nature had produced a horse that could out sprint a predator and hold the speed just long enough to burn out the predator, hence, the big prizes of all time through competition are going to the horses with the fastest times over the shorter distances.
This is where the trueness to the Bred for Purpose Breeding is to be found.
This loyalty to the Bloodlines has produced serious non related performance issues, as the inbreeding has had serious impact on the Breeds Mental Stability and their has been a period where a large percentage of New Born were rejected as being unmanageable.
It is for this reason approx' 100 years ago the Co-efficient of Inbreeding Formula was created, which is today is formula used by multiple breeds to show the Inbreeding discovered will most likely not produce a mental health issue and today suggests the risks of hereditary illness within a breed is reduced.
Mental Illness as a result of human intervention in breeding, has been the cause of substantial amounts of animals being euthanised.
In the case of Race Horses the life was terminated, prior to the horses ever getting to be a trained performance animal.
The Fact is, in today's world individuals Breed Animals. It is very common to discover that not all are going to consider the methods that create the most successful progeny, as the goal is most likely to make money. The intent is to 'sell on the Surplus. The alternative is to use the progeny as Assets/Merchandise to support a Business. Racing Animals is one such Business, Breeding Animals to create revenues is another and it is here to stay and most likely progress to more intense levels, as is the likelihood that other sales are to progress in other markets that cause certain types to raise their concerns.
There is plentiful archaeological evidence to suggest that certain animal types and most likely born as a result of human intervention, have been revered and have been given pride of place in communities and the rituals these communities have undertaken.
The Speed and Endurance of a Horse was a desirable requirement way before the Thoroughbred Registration was ever thought of.
The foundation of the Thoroughbred Registration was to prove a lineage back to Three Foundation Horses, The Byerly Turk, Godolphin Arabian and Darley Arabian.
The Human knew these Horses evolved as a Human Intervention from horses that were naturally living in an environment where their predators were very fast. Nature had produced a horse that could out sprint a predator and hold the speed just long enough to burn out the predator, hence, the big prizes of all time through competition are going to the horses with the fastest times over the shorter distances.
This is where the trueness to the Bred for Purpose Breeding is to be found.
This loyalty to the Bloodlines has produced serious non related performance issues, as the inbreeding has had serious impact on the Breeds Mental Stability and their has been a period where a large percentage of New Born were rejected as being unmanageable.
It is for this reason approx' 100 years ago the Co-efficient of Inbreeding Formula was created, which is today is formula used by multiple breeds to show the Inbreeding discovered will most likely not produce a mental health issue and today suggests the risks of hereditary illness within a breed is reduced.
Mental Illness as a result of human intervention in breeding, has been the cause of substantial amounts of animals being euthanised.
In the case of Race Horses the life was terminated, prior to the horses ever getting to be a trained performance animal.
The Fact is, in today's world individuals Breed Animals. It is very common to discover that not all are going to consider the methods that create the most successful progeny, as the goal is most likely to make money. The intent is to 'sell on the Surplus. The alternative is to use the progeny as Assets/Merchandise to support a Business. Racing Animals is one such Business, Breeding Animals to create revenues is another and it is here to stay and most likely progress to more intense levels, as is the likelihood that other sales are to progress in other markets that cause certain types to raise their concerns.
Approximately 9.7 Billion farm animals are slaughtered for food and other resources in the USA annually. Of those 9.3 billion are chickens, a quarter billion turkeys, an eighth of a billion pigs and a paltry 33 million cattle and two million sheep. Those poor handful of racehorses have nothing to complain about by comparison...they live like kings! Gotta go...the bacon smells ready to eat!
People, humans, are treated in the worst manners thinkable by humans with full intention (=torture) for example because of political reasons.
Animals do not have to suffer the same.
And: I appreciate sports with horses. It should never be banned.
Pseudo animal rights organizations are financed by rich elites who want to destroy our culture.
Animals do not have to suffer the same.
And: I appreciate sports with horses. It should never be banned.
Pseudo animal rights organizations are financed by rich elites who want to destroy our culture.
I would question someones moral compass if they receive gratification from seeing animals being abused for money.
Big difference between farming animals for food and whipping a horse by a human to make it gallop faster around a racetrack against its will.
True, but doesn't excuse the fact that animals are abused for human entertainment.
The reality is they do.
Whipping a horse is not a sport, its abuse. The human riding the animal is just a passenger, the animal is doing all the hard work, how is this classified as a sport ?
Yes, how dare they interrupt your morally bankrupt sporting activities.
People will always find and need ways to entertain, governments banned the dog fights, cockfights, bullfighting, animal fights in general, so people will watch bare knuckles, slapping competition, ufc and other bloody human fighting competitions.
Animal deaths vs people deaths?
Which one do you choose?
As said, Horses used for Competing in the area where the biggest prize monies are to be found, is where the human is exploiting the natural flight/fight instincts that are within a horse from a particular region on the planet.
Interesting how Horses with origins based in Africa and the Middle East are able to improve on the Athleticism and Speed and Stamina of Horses from all different regions on the Planet, but the Arabian Horse Breeds and close relatives has not improved much in athleticism, speed and stamina following all the human intervention selective breeding that has been done prior to and following the Thoroughbred Registration being brought into existence.
The fundamental issue is not the Sporting use of animals, that is a symptom and incurred injuries occur as a result of the activities the animals are subjected to. The real issue is the extent of breeding being carried out and the need to sell on the young stock. Commonly once monies are paid out, the immediate follow up is planning the animals future as their is now a need to raise revenues to keep the machine well oiled. Animals are sold and remuneration for the investment made is sought, in most cases this is to be sought through competition.
Animals are very commonly found to be with foster ownership when used for competitive purposes, the legal owners are usually remote, maybe even not even resident to a Country where the animal is living.
It is the continuous interest of Buyers and their purchases that keep the industry buoyant, not the Race Courses, Stables, Trainers, Grooms or the Jockey's. The Veterinary Industry are very adept at maintaining their silence on the competitive use of animals, it is lucrative to them, and who else is better placed as an authority to advise on animal welfare, surely this professions silence suggests concerns raised by the general public are not to be taken seriously.
Interesting how Horses with origins based in Africa and the Middle East are able to improve on the Athleticism and Speed and Stamina of Horses from all different regions on the Planet, but the Arabian Horse Breeds and close relatives has not improved much in athleticism, speed and stamina following all the human intervention selective breeding that has been done prior to and following the Thoroughbred Registration being brought into existence.
The fundamental issue is not the Sporting use of animals, that is a symptom and incurred injuries occur as a result of the activities the animals are subjected to. The real issue is the extent of breeding being carried out and the need to sell on the young stock. Commonly once monies are paid out, the immediate follow up is planning the animals future as their is now a need to raise revenues to keep the machine well oiled. Animals are sold and remuneration for the investment made is sought, in most cases this is to be sought through competition.
Animals are very commonly found to be with foster ownership when used for competitive purposes, the legal owners are usually remote, maybe even not even resident to a Country where the animal is living.
It is the continuous interest of Buyers and their purchases that keep the industry buoyant, not the Race Courses, Stables, Trainers, Grooms or the Jockey's. The Veterinary Industry are very adept at maintaining their silence on the competitive use of animals, it is lucrative to them, and who else is better placed as an authority to advise on animal welfare, surely this professions silence suggests concerns raised by the general public are not to be taken seriously.
I'm sure you would prefer to eat those horses than watching them run on the racetrack. The thing is most or all of the horses involved in this business love to run in the races. Bulls once in a while kill the matador and they die an honorable death. I wouldn't want to face a Bull in the arena for any money ..
What about professional sport ? Is this really promotion of a healthy lifestyle or machine producing handicapped people for the sake of a minutes lasting fame. Only Fish does not have a voice ... To make a full disclosure I have no killer instinct whatsoever. My mom was a family butcher when we lived on the farm while my chicken father was locking himself up in the house. I only killed one rooster to prove to myself that if it comes to this I will survive .
In my opinion people who complain the most would be first to kill and eat their dogs in order to save themselves because it's symptomatic to how a weak people behave.
What about professional sport ? Is this really promotion of a healthy lifestyle or machine producing handicapped people for the sake of a minutes lasting fame. Only Fish does not have a voice ... To make a full disclosure I have no killer instinct whatsoever. My mom was a family butcher when we lived on the farm while my chicken father was locking himself up in the house. I only killed one rooster to prove to myself that if it comes to this I will survive .
In my opinion people who complain the most would be first to kill and eat their dogs in order to save themselves because it's symptomatic to how a weak people behave.
When I was a teenager hospitalised by a serious health condition, when I finally was taken of the emergency observation. I was moved further into the Ward and met other inpatients.
I was quite young as a patient, as many were beyond retirement age. One day in conversation with a person born in Poland and has experienced the impact of WWII in this country, they informed me a Dog was a prized meal when starvation was at your doorstep.
I was quite young as a patient, as many were beyond retirement age. One day in conversation with a person born in Poland and has experienced the impact of WWII in this country, they informed me a Dog was a prized meal when starvation was at your doorstep.
Now the number of horses killed as a result of the Kentucky Debry has risen to SEVEN. In a matter of a week, SEVEN horses have become injured either from practice or from running in the event so that they had to be killed by their owners.
This is not a sport. This is inhuman treatment of animals. And it needs to be ended by eliminating horse racing as we know it today.
This is not a sport. This is inhuman treatment of animals. And it needs to be ended by eliminating horse racing as we know it today.
Should not this subject include the present threat to the eradication of entire species that reside along side humans on this planet, as a result of human activities being destructive and in many cases not met with any human intention to be repaired.
Crunch the figures on species lost, on a critical list, or projected as becoming endangered in the short-term.
The loss will not be seven as being stated belonging to a Breed that has been specifically bred by humans to have their chance to participate in a event that has been organised by humans. The Number Crunch is most likely in the Billions, where lives are lost and the species is not able to recover, Multi-Millions where the Species are in a critical state to their survival and Millions where the species has become endangered.
All Humans have intentions, they are not very good at the 'Being' part. For many the intentions when being fulfilled will have an impact in some way on the natural environment.
In the World that has a Structure based on Social Standing. At the top end of the Pyramid, For a select group of humans, there are investments being made, which are funding activities carried out by humans, that are proven to be destroying species.
It is the remuneration from these investments that enables a selection of members of this select group to have a vested interest in human organised events, where some of these events will allow them to see their expensively purchased horses compete for a various range of offered prize monies and attaining a prestigious recognition to be recorded in racing history.
Nearly all humans, with an interest in investing in their future financial stability have got or have had their monies tied up in the Business that is funding the carrying out of activities that are responsible for impacting heavily on nature and contributing to an accelerated loss of species.
It is these same investments that also supply substantial remuneration to the upper echelons within the Businesses being invested in. These Upper Echelons are known to quite partial to owning horses for the sole purpose of using them for competition and the prizes to be attained.
Bringing a Stop to Humans encouraging activities that end up with a living thing being harmed is some 'hurdle' to get over 'pardon the pun'.
Crunch the figures on species lost, on a critical list, or projected as becoming endangered in the short-term.
The loss will not be seven as being stated belonging to a Breed that has been specifically bred by humans to have their chance to participate in a event that has been organised by humans. The Number Crunch is most likely in the Billions, where lives are lost and the species is not able to recover, Multi-Millions where the Species are in a critical state to their survival and Millions where the species has become endangered.
All Humans have intentions, they are not very good at the 'Being' part. For many the intentions when being fulfilled will have an impact in some way on the natural environment.
In the World that has a Structure based on Social Standing. At the top end of the Pyramid, For a select group of humans, there are investments being made, which are funding activities carried out by humans, that are proven to be destroying species.
It is the remuneration from these investments that enables a selection of members of this select group to have a vested interest in human organised events, where some of these events will allow them to see their expensively purchased horses compete for a various range of offered prize monies and attaining a prestigious recognition to be recorded in racing history.
Nearly all humans, with an interest in investing in their future financial stability have got or have had their monies tied up in the Business that is funding the carrying out of activities that are responsible for impacting heavily on nature and contributing to an accelerated loss of species.
It is these same investments that also supply substantial remuneration to the upper echelons within the Businesses being invested in. These Upper Echelons are known to quite partial to owning horses for the sole purpose of using them for competition and the prizes to be attained.
Bringing a Stop to Humans encouraging activities that end up with a living thing being harmed is some 'hurdle' to get over 'pardon the pun'.
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