Hi,
You can't make it any easier on me than by putting it like that:
Have I suggested you read a few pages on cryogenics or haven't I?
I think I did and you'll find all the answers if you just stopped arguing and made that small effort.
In my line of work that amounts to "RTFM".
If no quantifiable properties would be altered then how on earth do you think an audible difference could possibly even exist? Duh...........
There is no such thing as a "tube sound". Period.
Cheers, 😉
You can't make it any easier on me than by putting it like that:
Have I suggested you read a few pages on cryogenics or haven't I?
I think I did and you'll find all the answers if you just stopped arguing and made that small effort.
In my line of work that amounts to "RTFM".
If no quantifiable properties would be altered then how on earth do you think an audible difference could possibly even exist? Duh...........
There is no such thing as a "tube sound". Period.
Cheers, 😉
The sound gives you goosebumps.audio-kraut said:
I think you're the one that needs to do your homework here pal. It's evident that I've read more on the topic than you, and have more experience than you do.fdegrove said:
Since it has been shown that no quantifiable properties of a conductor are changed, then no change in the sound occurs. At last this issue is settled.fdegrove said:
Hi,
None that I've seen.
Really now? Maybe you can show us where that has been shown too?
Cheers PAL, 😉
None that I've seen.
Really now? Maybe you can show us where that has been shown too?
Cheers PAL, 😉
The burden of proof is on you. You're the dough-head here, not me. I know my physics, you don't.
You obviously don't know anything about non-electrical properties of cryogenicly treated material, let alone the electrical ones. How do you know the different sounds produced aren't distortion? Do you even play any musical instruments?
You obviously don't know anything about non-electrical properties of cryogenicly treated material, let alone the electrical ones. How do you know the different sounds produced aren't distortion? Do you even play any musical instruments?
Funny that I'm accused of picking a fight for pointing out an obvious logic error while personal attacks are considered perfectly reasonable arguments, no?
My warning is general, not aimed at any one person. If you don't play nicely then I will look at taking things further.
Sorry if I caused a misunderstanding. I wasn't referring to pinkmouse's post, but the ones resorting to personal attacks. To some thick skin is obviously a one-way street.
I finally splurged on some cryoed cables. Not the welfare ones either, they were cryoed in liquid helium, not nitrogen. Now Barry White sounds like The Chipmunks.
Hmmm. This thread seems to have deviated somewhat from the original topic. Still.
For the purposes of this post, assume i know nothing about cables of any sort (its probably true). I did not read all 40 pages of discussion, so apologies to everyone if this question has already been asked.
Why do people bother testing cables with their own ears? Surely a much better method of compairing cables is to hook them up to the same piece of test equipment, stick a load of simulated signals down them, blast them with radio waves and see which one suffers least distortion. No-one could dispute the results or fudge the conclusions based on their own beliefs about expensive cabling.
Perhaps the answer is obvious...humor me anyway though. Im just trying to learn.
Anyone?
For the purposes of this post, assume i know nothing about cables of any sort (its probably true). I did not read all 40 pages of discussion, so apologies to everyone if this question has already been asked.
Why do people bother testing cables with their own ears? Surely a much better method of compairing cables is to hook them up to the same piece of test equipment, stick a load of simulated signals down them, blast them with radio waves and see which one suffers least distortion. No-one could dispute the results or fudge the conclusions based on their own beliefs about expensive cabling.
Perhaps the answer is obvious...humor me anyway though. Im just trying to learn.
Anyone?
Bertles said:
Yes, the answer is obvious. Because the odds are overwhelming that you will measure no differences with your method, which is absolutely sound (no pun intended).
But lots of people will not accept that becasue they maintain that they clearly hear that there IS a difference.
How's that for summing up 40 pages of posts?😉
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