Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you Dutch guys can read Scandinavian languages. Takk saa mikket, as Richard Gere puts it in perfect Swenglish in American Gigolo. THAT is fun.
What I said about the chair is as good as fact.
That has nothing to do with positivism.
It's a marvellous pastime. 😉
Consider this an official warning.
Sy, All,
One of the peeves I have about this DIY forum is that participants are most often too lazy to bother addressing the person to whom they are replying. To offhandedly assume that everyone who stumbles into the thread will know what is going on is just wrong.
Sy,
I just saw you, a Moderator Maximus do this too and I had to say something. I went back a full page looking for your quote to see who you were giving a warning to and gave up. All I had was casual interest but I'm not going to waste my time playing detective. I have more important things to do.
All,
See the way I began this post?! It didn't take much effort.
One of the peeves I have about this DIY forum is that participants are most often too lazy to bother addressing the person to whom they are replying. To offhandedly assume that everyone who stumbles into the thread will know what is going on is just wrong.
Sy,
I just saw you, a Moderator Maximus do this too and I had to say something. I went back a full page looking for your quote to see who you were giving a warning to and gave up. All I had was casual interest but I'm not going to waste my time playing detective. I have more important things to do.
All,
See the way I began this post?! It didn't take much effort.
rcavictim said:
Rcavictim,
In general I agree with you. But for a mod warning, you can look at it also another way. The mod warning is not, like an audio related post, meant for general consumption. The one addressed should be able to recognise the quote coming from him. You could say that the general public here need not necessarily know who is receiving the reprimande; in fact it can be counterproductive to shout it out to the world at large.
Jan Didden
OK, editing my post after SY responded ended up making for a bit of fun, but let me clarify that I said that in my last post. phn said that a priest and Stephen Hawking know nothing about life, but implied throughout several posts that he himself did. I thought it appropriate to curb his arrogance. Moreover, no one that knows anything about Hawking's personal life would reasonably say that about him -- it was a comment that I found offending.
Apparently SY thinks it was inappropriate to attack someone personally. You should take his advice.
Then you should say that you find it offending,- and why.
Prune, Hawkins and priests are NOT authorities on life. That would be the area of expertise for a philosopher. THAT was and is my point.
Other than that, I have left this thread. It seems to have taken on a nasty life of its own. Funny thing cables, no?
Other than that, I have left this thread. It seems to have taken on a nasty life of its own. Funny thing cables, no?
phn said:
PHN,
i suppose it is common knowledge that us Dutch guys do not have a barrier to foreign languages.
Trying to read slogans here is fun and educational.
Posting the translation is a way of checking for correctness and others may be interested in knowing the meaning, it is not meant as ridiculing.
SY and VARIAC,
It is admirable that you moderators daily keep up on so many postings.
Though still busy catching up on the older threads i am impressed by the diplomatic ways in which you intermediate.
Wishing you guys happy holidays.
"i suppose it is common knowledge that us Dutch guys do not have a barrier to foreign languages.
Trying to read slogans here is fun and educational.
Posting the translation is a way of checking for correctness and others may be interested in knowing the meaning, it is not meant as ridiculing."
Jacco, the Richard Gere quote ("Thank you very much," for those that were left out, or just "Thank you"; the Swedish in the movie isn't very up to date so I'm not quite sure) was meant as a joke. Obviously not a very funny one. I'll try harder next time. Not to ridicule. There's no place for that here. If I ridiculed anyone, and it wasn't intended as such, it would be Swenglish speaking Swedes. And, gosh, that would be me. Unlike what some guy here thinks, I try not to take myself too seriously.
And we Scandinavians can read Dutch. Yes, I thought that was "common knowledge."
Trying to read slogans here is fun and educational.
Posting the translation is a way of checking for correctness and others may be interested in knowing the meaning, it is not meant as ridiculing."
Jacco, the Richard Gere quote ("Thank you very much," for those that were left out, or just "Thank you"; the Swedish in the movie isn't very up to date so I'm not quite sure) was meant as a joke. Obviously not a very funny one. I'll try harder next time. Not to ridicule. There's no place for that here. If I ridiculed anyone, and it wasn't intended as such, it would be Swenglish speaking Swedes. And, gosh, that would be me. Unlike what some guy here thinks, I try not to take myself too seriously.
And we Scandinavians can read Dutch. Yes, I thought that was "common knowledge."
phn said:
I can read most scandinavian languages reasonbly. But if you guys start talking its all on-line encryption to me😉
Jan Didden
janneman said:
Jan,
You raised a good point. Regarding Sy's warning, I hadn't thought of it that way.
Sy,
In the immortal words of Roseanne Roeseanna-Danna..........
I want to apologize to phn and whoever else may have been offended for overreacting. I should have shown more tact, and the moderators were fair in pointing that out.
I tend not to kick myself often enough around here, so the mods kick me out instead from time to time... 
I even got banned from head-fi recently.
I even got banned from head-fi recently.janneman said:
Happy new year Jan =)
Of course you are correct; it is the most simple and most likely explanation, and as such would suggest that there is no difference. But, the mistake is to leap to the 'conclusion' that there is no difference -- a 50/50 blind test result is not 'absolute' proof in any true sense, especially when what you measure is inherently subjective.
A previous post stated that a 50/50 blind test result between coke and pepsi meant that it was impossible to tell the difference - nonsense of course. Half prefered one, Half prefered the other, this is all.
A skeptic will appreciate that this example of flawed, for with coke/pepsi there is provably a difference between the liquids- the test is merely to examine whether people can 'detect' the difference, while skeptics would propose that with cables there 'is' no difference and therefore nothing to detect.
But therein lies an ambiguity, will you not find the same results in both cases? If you perform two blind tests-- in the first, you have coke in both cups and ask people to choose their favourite. In the second, you have coke in one cup and pepsi in the other. The results will of course be uninteresting (assuming that personal preference is roughly split, which it seems to be), roughly 50/50 in both cases.
But still, it is too much a leap of logic to propose that it is impossible to tell the difference between coke and pepsi. Much less that they are one and the same.
Mostly people use tools and arguments at hand to justify beliefs that they already hold, myself included certainly. But I do wish that people wouldnt be so dismissive- just because 'you' cant hear or see or whatever else, that doesnt mean it doesnt exist :
Please can someone clarify for me:
Do people propose that there isnt anyone in the world who can hear a difference, or just that the difference is so small that 99% or whatever of the populace wouldnt hear a difference?
Do 'skeptics' accept that the properties of the cable (even if simply R/C, etc) DO affect the sound? And therefore, certain cables might be more preferable in a certain system or to certain ears?
I'm sure I can build a cable so bad that most could easily hear the difference. The issue is one of how much difference is, and the rational position is that in most situations, for most cables (I'm ignoring the issue of shielding from interference here, which is probably where there is most effective difference) the difference is miniscule. And while some people have much better than average hearing, no one has the superhuman hearing suggested by the cable reviews one reads around the web.
Only a few situations can really cause such a difference. If the source cannot properly drive the cable-amp combination, for example. Or, if the interconnect capacitance is too large, depending on the source and load impedances, frequency response can be affected. But it is unlikely that this can make an audible difference in the majority of reasonable setups.
The sceptics i know in 'real life' would under no circumstances seriously audition cables. They might do it in the company of other sceptics as means of socialising and having fun but as soon as things start getting serious they always find a reason to leave the room.
I certainly have more respect for sceptics who adhere to the moto 'If i can't hear it, nobody can' but sadly have never met such an entertaining person face to face.
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