Upupa Epops said:
If you think that best cap is no cap I can't agree with you more, providing of course you use you 50 cents a piece caps variety.
A good cap in many cases is much better than complicated (and sophistcated) electrical circuit.
Oh c'mon man, you don't really buy into that do you? Anybody with a highschool education and more than an F on his final physics exam can tell you that this is just another attempt to get some easy cash from the gullible.
Audio is governed by the laws of science, there's no magic involved, hence a magical component that'll dramAtically improve your system's 'audiophile' performance is like believing you can fly if you flap your arms real fast.
A cap is a cap, switching to teflon for the dieelectric will not help in the range where these caps are going to be used. The only way to improve on caps is by taking a few smaller ones in parallel, as I suggested you do with polyprop caps.
Best regards,
Sander Sassen
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com
You've all heard the expression " A fool and his money are soon parted." ? I think this falls into that category, along with the $500 wooden knob.
There's no way to justify a price of $300 for a small cap like that.
There's no way to justify a price of $300 for a small cap like that.
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Capacitor sound?
I would like to see some O-Scope screen captures of your amplifier output with the 300$ capacitors versus a more reasonably priced poly cap.A square wave input to the chip amp with 1khz followed by 10 khz.If you claim to hear these sonic improvements they really should be able to be measured.I doubt that National is using teflon caps when they manufacture the chip,I remain skeptical of your claims.
I would like to see some O-Scope screen captures of your amplifier output with the 300$ capacitors versus a more reasonably priced poly cap.A square wave input to the chip amp with 1khz followed by 10 khz.If you claim to hear these sonic improvements they really should be able to be measured.I doubt that National is using teflon caps when they manufacture the chip,I remain skeptical of your claims.
Another borg-infested thread.
Peter, the caps require a long so-called break-in time.
By the way, on the subject of good capacitors, I sent a note to Hans of Jensen Capacitors asking if he would wind me some paper-in-oil capacitors using Fluorinert as a dielectric liquid (dielectric constant of 1.7). He responded positively some while back, though I haven't heard from him lately. I'll let you know if anything transpires.
Peter, the caps require a long so-called break-in time.
By the way, on the subject of good capacitors, I sent a note to Hans of Jensen Capacitors asking if he would wind me some paper-in-oil capacitors using Fluorinert as a dielectric liquid (dielectric constant of 1.7). He responded positively some while back, though I haven't heard from him lately. I'll let you know if anything transpires.
Originally posted by SSassen
Oh c'mon man, you don't really buy into that do you?
A cap is a cap,
then why not use electrolitycs?
http://www.capacitors.com/picking_capacitors/pickcap.htm
Oh c'mon man, you don't really buy into that do you?
A cap is a cap,
then why not use electrolitycs?
http://www.capacitors.com/picking_capacitors/pickcap.htm
SY said:
My apologies. Allow me to reverse my above comment.
.daerht detsefni-grob rehtona si sihT
SSassen said:
Amen!
serengetiplains said:
LMAO!
See sig.
tomtt said:
Next amp I build, I should use stainless steel hookup wire (oxygen free? What's that?) and electrolytic coupling capacitors. Oh, and ceramics. If that doesn't get the audiophools buzzing, I don't know what will.
Tim
tomtt said:
Why not?
I'm actually using $2/pc electrolytics for coupling and prefer them over the caps costing 20 times more.
If you must have PTFE, don't forget that you can get twenty Russian military surplus 0.1µF PTFE caps for the price of only four of these types.
You'll also need a pentode mode push-pull output stage, global negative feedback, class AB operation, no octals, no triodes, SS rectification... 😉
Sch3mat1c said:
You'll also need a pentode mode push-pull output stage, global negative feedback, class AB operation, no octals, no triodes, SS rectification... 😉
Peter, I understand your saying. At some point we all end up there. This hobby (obsession
) of our's is leading towards things like that. But we still have to consider an investment like that, and value if the outcome is worth the investment😉 If some $-heavy guy thinks it is worth it, by all means go ahead. For the rest of us, I don't think so😉 Say you need 2 (or 4) of those 2 uF caps, that would be 778$, (or 1556$) Normal pricing! I could find a better place to put that amount of money😉 Steen.🙂
audiousername said:
Russian Teflon Capacitors
more
Having russian military surplus parts in your amp makes it 10 times cooler.
btw for the people saying teflon is expensive, its nowhere near THAT expensive. They are obviously making a huge profit if they sell any of these caps.
Perfect Cap?
How do I know these parts are not taken from the demolished Tsjernobyl power plant????? Hot item????
How do I know these parts are not taken from the demolished Tsjernobyl power plant????? Hot item????
Having russian military surplus parts in your amp makes it 10 times cooler.
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Even more Russian military surplus from same site...
http://search.ebay.ca/_W0QQsassZalex550Q5f2
Stan
Originally posted by Peter Daniel
Why not?
I'm actually using $2/pc electrolytics for coupling and prefer them over the caps costing 20 times more.
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in the event you prefer those you might as well use those
i use caps from tvs lying off the side of the road and surplus
emporiums,prefering oil and paper.
so far $5 is the most i've paid so far
for a single cap (20uf@200v electrocube)
i was in a thrift store,and asked to listen to an "old' and large speaker.
when they played their,check the speakers amp, i could hear the electrolitic
cap grit rather well,indicating that this speaker from the early 50's was
well worth having,whereas their lo-fi recever was less so,to me anyway
Why not?
I'm actually using $2/pc electrolytics for coupling and prefer them over the caps costing 20 times more.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
in the event you prefer those you might as well use those
i use caps from tvs lying off the side of the road and surplus
emporiums,prefering oil and paper.
so far $5 is the most i've paid so far
for a single cap (20uf@200v electrocube)
i was in a thrift store,and asked to listen to an "old' and large speaker.
when they played their,check the speakers amp, i could hear the electrolitic
cap grit rather well,indicating that this speaker from the early 50's was
well worth having,whereas their lo-fi recever was less so,to me anyway
The V-Cap Teflon capacitor was just evaluated in a 21 capacitor "shootout"
by China's largest hi-fi journal, AV Front Line. Chris VenHaus was given permission by the author to
post the English translated version in .pdf format here:
http://www.vhaudio.com/21capacitorshootout.pdf
Thought you might be interested...
by China's largest hi-fi journal, AV Front Line. Chris VenHaus was given permission by the author to
post the English translated version in .pdf format here:
http://www.vhaudio.com/21capacitorshootout.pdf
Thought you might be interested...
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