Hi!
That was a myth.
Thomas
I heard somewhere long ago from an apparently reputable source that ISO-TANGO and JAMES transformers were all built on the same assembly lines.
That was a myth.
Thomas
I do not consider those Italian xfrms on the same Tango-Tamura league.EU and Europe: Bartolucci (Italy)....
I guess it depends on where you are from then, because they have comparable mystique here.
In truth the Bartolucci PP transformers I have worked with were quite good.
My favorite SE transformer is still the Tamura F-5002.. (Too rich for my blood unfortunately)
In truth the Bartolucci PP transformers I have worked with were quite good.
My favorite SE transformer is still the Tamura F-5002.. (Too rich for my blood unfortunately)
I do not consider those Italian xfrms on the same Tango-Tamura league.
Best Italian custom transformers were from Megahertz (megahertzaudio.it) using the best materials around (such as Hi-B M0 0.1 mm cores for OT's and permalloy for signal transformers) and rather complicated gemometries to achive best possible performance. They were designed, tested and used by Ciro Marzio I think. Also they made custom designs. These are in the same league for sure! Some SE designs might actually be better....
I don't know if they are still available.
This message on Koji's website
There will be a new company which succeed TANGO(ISO) business .
There will be a new company which succeed TANGO(ISO) business .
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Hi!
As far as I am aware they need to find a new location with suitable machines. Their workshop was rented and they had to move out. Not sure if there were any other issues.
Let's hope for the best that they manage to continue!
Thomas
As far as I am aware they need to find a new location with suitable machines. Their workshop was rented and they had to move out. Not sure if there were any other issues.
Let's hope for the best that they manage to continue!
Thomas
Yesterday I talked Mr. Iwasaki of ISO-TANGO and ask him:
a) What are the reasons behind for shutting down the business?
b) When ISO-TANGO will be closed?
c) Anyone taking over the TANGO?
He answered:
a) ISO-TANGO is being operated with 4~5 people and that all became aged and often sick, in addition to inevitable market shrinkage of DIY Audio.
b) The remaining backlog will be dissolved within the next January.
Then the firm will be closed completely.
c) He hinted some transformer maker is interested to buy TANGO`s production drawings and may be the trademark. But he is concerned about the possibility of produce the same quality of OPTs without of continuance of craftsman`s technical skill.
Taking this opportunity Mr. Iwasaki wished to express his gratitude to who enjoyed using TANGO products so far.
I feel that everything will be settled in a few months.
a) What are the reasons behind for shutting down the business?
b) When ISO-TANGO will be closed?
c) Anyone taking over the TANGO?
He answered:
a) ISO-TANGO is being operated with 4~5 people and that all became aged and often sick, in addition to inevitable market shrinkage of DIY Audio.
b) The remaining backlog will be dissolved within the next January.
Then the firm will be closed completely.
c) He hinted some transformer maker is interested to buy TANGO`s production drawings and may be the trademark. But he is concerned about the possibility of produce the same quality of OPTs without of continuance of craftsman`s technical skill.
Taking this opportunity Mr. Iwasaki wished to express his gratitude to who enjoyed using TANGO products so far.
I feel that everything will be settled in a few months.
Hi!
Thank you for the clear update.
That is sad that they will shut down completely.
Since they plan to produce the backlog that means a chance that I will receive the order I placed in June.
Best regards
Thomas
Thank you for the clear update.
That is sad that they will shut down completely.
Since they plan to produce the backlog that means a chance that I will receive the order I placed in June.
Best regards
Thomas
I don't get it. Their products are world-famous, and they couldn't prepare a new generation of young and motivated workers to take over?
Maybe the business wasn't profitable enough?
It is sad when the know-how and the skills are lost forever.
Maybe the business wasn't profitable enough?
It is sad when the know-how and the skills are lost forever.
Hiro, Thank you for updating us. Very sad news concerning TANGO.
But, I am surprised to hear that the DIY Audio market is shrinking. Looking at all the projects under discussion in our forum, I might expect to hear that the DIY Market is bigger than in 1990s - does anyone know more?
But, I am surprised to hear that the DIY Audio market is shrinking. Looking at all the projects under discussion in our forum, I might expect to hear that the DIY Market is bigger than in 1990s - does anyone know more?
Hi Rod,
I agree, the DIY market certainly is bigger than in the 1990ies. But there are also many more suppliers for transformers now, which is actually a good thing.
I guess the strong Yen exchange rate impacted their business a lot. Their prices had to increase a lot during the last 10 years to accommodate the strong Yen
Best regards
Thomas
I agree, the DIY market certainly is bigger than in the 1990ies. But there are also many more suppliers for transformers now, which is actually a good thing.
I guess the strong Yen exchange rate impacted their business a lot. Their prices had to increase a lot during the last 10 years to accommodate the strong Yen
Best regards
Thomas
I think Thomas nailed it.. Many more choices now than then, a strong yen and weaker dollar and euro make competing in world markets difficult.
Hi!
Thank you for the clear update.
That is sad that they will shut down completely.
Since they plan to produce the backlog that means a chance that I will receive the order I placed in June.
Best regards
Thomas
Hi
You have a good chance if you placed order before June 17th, as ISO-Tango stopped receving older by June 17th.
Hiro
Hiro, Thank you for updating us. Very sad news concerning TANGO.
But, I am surprised to hear that the DIY Audio market is shrinking. Looking at all the projects under discussion in our forum, I might expect to hear that the DIY Market is bigger than in 1990s - does anyone know more?
Rod-San,
I mean DIY audio market in Japan is shrinking in particular in high-class transformers.
The numbers of OPT makers in Japan are increasing: Tamura, Hashimoto, Noguchi, Kasuga-musen, Someya-denshi, Toei-Henseiki, Softon, Ichikawa and so on.
Overseas OPT makers who have sales agency in Japan are Lundahl, Hamond, Raphaelite, Plitron and may be more. So competition is very keen in this market.
In the mean time the market trend in Japan heading price oriented, and recently Tamura lunched new product series (cheaper version):
OPT: F-912~F-915: 17,500 Yen, Power transformer: PC-932~PC940: 15,225Yen and Choke: A-825 11,200Yen.
So, I partly agreed with Tomas and actual situation in Japan is not so bad for us.
.....cut.... recently Tamura lunched new product series (cheaper version):
OPT: F-912~F-915: 17,500 Yen....cut
Can you give more information about these?
Thanks
Dear Hiro-san
You were right! I received the remainder of my order today! I now have some stock which enables me to build amplifiers with Tango transformers for a few more years.
Do you have any news if there will be a successor company which will carry on the brand? It would be great if they manage to continue.
Best regards
Thomas
You have a good chance if you placed order before June 17th, as ISO-Tango stopped receving older by June 17th.
You were right! I received the remainder of my order today! I now have some stock which enables me to build amplifiers with Tango transformers for a few more years.
Do you have any news if there will be a successor company which will carry on the brand? It would be great if they manage to continue.
Best regards
Thomas
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