And here’s a photo of Pink Floyd in the mixing room of Abbey Road, Studio 3 circa first half of 1967:
Look like Tannoy Lockwoods to me. At any rate, the actual mastering monitors are more interesting for our purposes.
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Regarding the above post: the band, year and monitors are (probably) correct but the studio is wrong. It’s actually them at De Lane Lea, not Abbey Road. My apologies for the unnecessary confusion.
Like a bullet- the JBL 075/2402 beamwidth goes from about 150 degrees at 3.15kHz to 22 degrees at 20kHz.
If you do choose a beamy high frequency, using the axi2050 on a Seos 30 as Celestion did for their on axis measurements rather than using a separate beaming horn tweeter would be preferable from an imaging standpoint- the primary advantage of a driver like the axi2050, or the BMS 4594 or B&C DCX464 coaxial HF drivers are a wide-band virtual single point source that can reproduce loud levels with low distortion.
That said, a virtual single point source does not have to be limited to a beaming horn..
Art
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"So now I'm looking at purchasing a axi2050 to reach the lowest xover possible....I've heard that tweeters are hard to incorporate...what about the JBL 075. I've seen only bullet tweeters with horn systems....why? Whats the dispersion like?"
Out of all the JBL ring tweeters use the 2404 if you don't want beaming.
Rob🙂
http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2404.pdf
Out of all the JBL ring tweeters use the 2404 if you don't want beaming.
Rob🙂
http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2404.pdf
Recently built a 15cxn88 trial box, for use with a sub and my standard 100Hz crossover.
B&C Speakers
Sounds great, images very well. Could easily live with it full time.
But that said, I still prefer the 4594 or dcx464 on a horn, with a 12" or two.
B&C Speakers
Sounds great, images very well. Could easily live with it full time.
But that said, I still prefer the 4594 or dcx464 on a horn, with a 12" or two.
Mark, if you had to choose (which you don't have to 😉), would you take the 4594 or the DCX464?
I expect either of those to sound smoother than the 15CXN88 in the upper mids/highs.
I expect either of those to sound smoother than the 15CXN88 in the upper mids/highs.
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EXCLUSIVE ET-703
This won't be cheap though. ( Pionner exclusive = TAD).
It is the picture i was refering to* . Thank you for clarification Brinkman, it seems i was wrong about Abbey Road.
*Well maybe not as Sid Barrett wasn't present in my memory and the room was bigger...hmmm, will check on my HDD if i can find it.
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Those are Tannoy Lancaster cabinets with Monitor Gold drivers, to be precise. Pink Floyd’s ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ was recorded on these monitors.
Ah yes, this is this room i had in memories.
And my memory still serve apparently!
Thank you Ro808.
No trace of the picture in HDD1... 3 more to check if i kept this picture.
I like the speaker stands! They really didn't bother at the time... 🙂
And my memory still serve apparently!
Thank you Ro808.
No trace of the picture in HDD1... 3 more to check if i kept this picture.
I like the speaker stands! They really didn't bother at the time... 🙂
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You just saved me having to ask who has compared a large coaxial to a tradition horn....now, can please be more descriptive in the differences and why you prefer the horn?
yes check out the Tannoy Revolution XT serirs was released in 2015 it is still current. These drivers represent the most significant improvements to the Tannoy DC driver in the last 95 years. The single 6.5 or 4.5 XT mini with subs are very very good. There are dual 6.5 and dual 8 XT both make lots of bass but do not integrate as well as the smaller singles do so unless you want lots of level then stick with the singles combines with subs. You want to have them right at ear level on axis set up like this with subs I feel that they are the best Tannoy has ever produced. In the pas I have has Silver 12" Gold12" and HPD 12" & 15" along with some later model 6.5" and 8" DC models and a pair of Mercury 7.2.
And here’s a photo of Pink Floyd in the mixing room of Abbey Road, Studio 3 circa first half of 1967:
Look like Tannoy Lockwoods to me. At any rate, the actual mastering monitors are more interesting for our purposes.
Yep, these are definitely Tannoy Lockwoods. Tannoy didn't build cabs during that era, only drivers.
Cabinetry was therefore outsourced to 2 companies, one of those was Lockwood.
The company is still in existence and those Major cabs are also still available.
Despite their legendary status, the vintage cabs are usually offered at surprisingly low prices.
Here's another example of the same Lockwood Major Cabinets (sold for less than $200).
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Also just realizing that these are coaxial compression drivers....maybe you could give a break down on how you feel about these in comparison to the single diaphragm compression drivers as well...I started with the liking's of the 4594 and similar BMS drivers and many people talked down on them. In the measurements its easy to see that the thd is higher than other drivers.
Tannoy Revolution XT 8F,Dual Concentric & 8” mid/bass drivers, PAIR, NEW | eBay
COVERING 250HZ-32KHZ though down 6 at 34khz.
COVERING 250HZ-32KHZ though down 6 at 34khz.
If they are in good condition this could be interesting.
You could make some nice nearfield to complement your future horn mains.
If i had money available at the moment... 🙂
You could make some nice nearfield to complement your future horn mains.
If i had money available at the moment... 🙂
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The Tannoy XT series are offered at 50% of the original retail prices everywhere, which make one wonder.
Interesting drivers though. It seems Tannoy drew some inspiration from Dr. Geddes' waveguides.
Both 6 and 8" are crossed at 1800Hz.
Interesting drivers though. It seems Tannoy drew some inspiration from Dr. Geddes' waveguides.
Both 6 and 8" are crossed at 1800Hz.
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This thread amazes me. I cant wait to read the latest updates each day.
The latest ones about the coaxials has me intrigued. The BMS look like good performers. If their 2" midrange compression drivers are anything to go by, then they should be awesome!
A Martian Bullfrog beater!!!
The latest ones about the coaxials has me intrigued. The BMS look like good performers. If their 2" midrange compression drivers are anything to go by, then they should be awesome!
A Martian Bullfrog beater!!!
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About Bms coax here is an example of the 12" used in an active PA satellite.
Soundpressure needed... - WestLab Audio Gmbh
The Pdf have nice polar plot and info: xover at 1,1khz ( dsp though).
There is a review on a german magazine online:
Test: Westlab LABRAT 12 - Prosound
Soundpressure needed... - WestLab Audio Gmbh
The Pdf have nice polar plot and info: xover at 1,1khz ( dsp though).
There is a review on a german magazine online:
Test: Westlab LABRAT 12 - Prosound