Is it possible: passive subsonic filter?

[Geez]

Hi!

I was wondering if someone has already built a subsonic filter to prevent excessive cone motion.

Using BassBox 6 at the External tab in the Driver Properties window I could experience with capacitor and inductance values but it looks like I would need 200-1000 microFarad and 20-60 mH (3-8 Ohm DCR) values which are very expensive.

As long as I read on other forums that they sell Behringer 2×3 way active crossovers for $200 I'm not shure the passive is the right choice.

Daniel

 

[roddyama]

You would not want to make a passive subsonic filter for the reasons you have already pointed out. The components required would be too large and expensive.

I have always used a steep active subsonic filter.

 

[richie00boy]

Not to mention that it's much easier to build a steeper active filter and you do not suffer from wavering frequency response nor lack of damping at the cutoff frequency.

You can even build a nice neat active subsonic filter complete for under $50 all in, and that's being generous.

 

[simon5]

For the coil, you could use a big iron core, or wiring your inductor on a big transformer core.

The DCR will be near 0.

As others said, probably better to go active hehe!

 

[Geez]

Thanks for the reply's.

In Thiele's calssic paper he writes about the passive filter assisted bassreflex alignments. If a passive low frequency high pass filter is so expensive then these aligments: B5, B6, C6 are not good choices I can conclude.

Daniel

 

[phase_accurate]

I see no reason why one shouldn't attempt a passive subsonic filter !
Just don't put it at the amp's output !!!!!

Regards

Charles

 

[roddyama]

Thiele's paper was written in the 60's before op-amps were readily available. Electro-Voice and others came out with electronic "bass boost" circuits (~B6 alignments) in the 70's. Some of these circuits may be interesting for you.

 

[rcw]

re passive filters

If you are making your own power amplifier you can get a second order high pass filter by choosing the value of the input coupling capacitor, and the capacitor that shunts the feedback leg to ground. This has a fixed Qt=.5, and is suitable as a part of the SC6,C6, QB5 class III alignments.
If only a single capacitor can be used then this can be part of a B5 alignment, in practice a back to back pair of electrolytics that has a nominal total capacity of around twice the one called for in theory will give a result that only varies by a few db. from the ideal if put in series with the driver, this can also be used as a second order filter if you choose an input coupling capacitor that is equal to the theoretical value.