This is a little variation to the usual circuits from datasheet. Compensate the output Voltage offset problems and adapts the phase and the impedance of the input signal. If desires, it may even inserts a potentiometer in the U1b net for active volume control (R11).
Ciao
Mauro Penasa
Ciao
Mauro Penasa
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I think I get most of this(the easy part).
U1a is unity gain buffer no phase shift.
U1b (unity gain) and u2 provide 360deg of shift.
Active volume in the feedback loop of U1b.
Questions
What is the purpose of the loop from o/p to +i/p of u1b with the clipping cct(4148)?
Does C2 form an i/p lowpass filter?
Does the Lin pot give a fake log taper in conjuntion with the feedback res of u1b?
Interesting cct.
Thanks for sharing
Hugh
U1a is unity gain buffer no phase shift.
U1b (unity gain) and u2 provide 360deg of shift.
Active volume in the feedback loop of U1b.
Questions
What is the purpose of the loop from o/p to +i/p of u1b with the clipping cct(4148)?
Does C2 form an i/p lowpass filter?
Does the Lin pot give a fake log taper in conjuntion with the feedback res of u1b?
Interesting cct.
Thanks for sharing
Hugh
R2 and C2 define the high freq. low pass ( about -3dB@140Khz )
R5 and C4 polarize on DC U1b ( and nulling the offset voltage of U2 )
the pot. forms a simple Baxandall config., and the result is similar to a logarithmic function using a linear pot.
ciao
Mauro
R5 and C4 polarize on DC U1b ( and nulling the offset voltage of U2 )
the pot. forms a simple Baxandall config., and the result is similar to a logarithmic function using a linear pot.
ciao
Mauro
Thanks Mauro
Have you built this yet or just simulated.
I'd like to build it up and try it. It looks like a better implementation for a project I'm working on. I really like the active vol control.
Hugh
Have you built this yet or just simulated.
I'd like to build it up and try it. It looks like a better implementation for a project I'm working on. I really like the active vol control.
Hugh
looks a good idea,I like that U1a and U1b parts.
have you consider to set up 3886 work on unity gain,as a current buffer?
trying modify R8=1K and remove R5,maybe should do some others modification😎
rgds
Z
have you consider to set up 3886 work on unity gain,as a current buffer?
trying modify R8=1K and remove R5,maybe should do some others modification😎
rgds
Z
unfortunately LM3886 a unit gain becomes unstable, and the techniques to stabilize it is nonelementary and degrade the performances. R5 cannot be removed, because polarizes U1b ( and U2 ) . Eventually has to connect to 0V.
Mauro
Mauro
giving it a go
Is the Burr Brown OPA2227 a suitable part for U1? If not I also have OPA627, which would you think preferable?
I have a few dozen of the above on hand, but no Fairchild pieces 🙁
Is the Burr Brown OPA2227 a suitable part for U1? If not I also have OPA627, which would you think preferable?
I have a few dozen of the above on hand, but no Fairchild pieces 🙁
Generally, are able use on U1 all the OPamp compensated to works at unit gain. Nearly all the duals OPamp used in audio have this characteristic, but be necessary see the datasheet case by chance. The circuit is calibrated for a direct coupling among U1a-U1b and U2. If U1 has diverged input corrent , this don't come compensated by the R5-C4 net, then be necessary change the R5 value among 15K min and 47K max. If uses the pot. with other chips it may compensate adding in parallel R4 a capacitor from 10pF to 100pF depending on the circumstances.
Mauro
Mauro
Please excuse my simple question, but I am still new. I see you use two sybols on the schematic for ground, one which is labeled "gnd" and the other "0V". Looking at the schematic it seems the one labeled "0V" are signal ground and that "gnd" is power ground. Please help me understand if they should be trtead differently, or if I should look at them as all terminating at a star ground point.
Thank You,
Russ
Thank You,
Russ
It's correct. 0V = signal ground, gnd= power ground. Is important that the 2 signals take an oath different run, and they crosses only in the star center of Large El. Cap + Diode bridge.
Mauro
Mauro
Wow, you answered my next question before I could even ask it! 🙂 I was going to ask about the diode bridge. Are the diode part numbers critical? I have some 100V 3A fast recovery diodes. Will they be OK?
[edit] I re-read your previous post. It seems you meant the diode bridge at the power supply. I was referring to the two diodes D1 and D2 near C4.
[edit] I re-read your previous post. It seems you meant the diode bridge at the power supply. I was referring to the two diodes D1 and D2 near C4.
The matter of the PSW is a lot of controversial in this forum, and I hope to not creating problems exposing my point of view. In my circuits I uses from a great deal of time a integrated diode bridge , with tides >10A and >100Vac, and 2 El. Cap. from 10.000µF. in the circuit " My amply " I have make a diode bridge DIL from 5A suns without never corresponding any breakdown, but it be worthwhile always abound with the current margin.
Generally, all the variations of PSW that have seen in this forum even is proper to my ideas. I suggestion to use un integrated Diode bridge, much near to the El cap, and inserts always a MKT capacitor from about 100nF among the 2 points of Vac1 and Vac2 ( as from MY ampli ") and weaves the wires of the transformer. The seas to discrete diodes is a generators of high frequency spike, and the nets of capacitor about doesn't always succeed to resolve the problems ( perhaps for this the snubber net are do profits...) I prefer eliminate the problem to the base. Other fundamental thing is that the PSW is more possible near to LM3886, because the connection wire create a lot of problems.
Mauro
Generally, all the variations of PSW that have seen in this forum even is proper to my ideas. I suggestion to use un integrated Diode bridge, much near to the El cap, and inserts always a MKT capacitor from about 100nF among the 2 points of Vac1 and Vac2 ( as from MY ampli ") and weaves the wires of the transformer. The seas to discrete diodes is a generators of high frequency spike, and the nets of capacitor about doesn't always succeed to resolve the problems ( perhaps for this the snubber net are do profits...) I prefer eliminate the problem to the base. Other fundamental thing is that the PSW is more possible near to LM3886, because the connection wire create a lot of problems.
Mauro
Thank you for your posts, maupenas. You show us a strong foundation in fundamentals and an aversion to fashion.
Mauro, thanks for all the good info.
I am still not clear on the purpose of D1 and D2, could you please enlighten this beginner. Also could you give me minimum ratings for those two parts.
Thanks,
Russ
I am still not clear on the purpose of D1 and D2, could you please enlighten this beginner. Also could you give me minimum ratings for those two parts.
Thanks,
Russ
I have forgotten me... D1 and D2 serve only to protect U1b +IN from voltage transients. Goes well all the signal diodes of 100mA >10V, have provided that a Vd 0,5V. The circuit even works without, but not all the chips have a good input protection.
Mauro
Mauro
If it's of interest,I publish the complete "kit" of this circuit, for the beginners that have not the halves to draw the PCB. The circuit is done with traditional components, on 100*160 single layer board and is complete of loudspeakers protection and power supply( misses only the transformer ). This circuit is a synthesis of my vision on: GC, Power supply (for GC) and ground loop. Naturally it may it serve as base of evaluation for other configurations.
To build the circuit it may use the draw (bottom copper, top view) on transparent paper and behaviour the photo-impression ( or furnish the draw to firms specialized in PCB).
Ciao
Mauro
To build the circuit it may use the draw (bottom copper, top view) on transparent paper and behaviour the photo-impression ( or furnish the draw to firms specialized in PCB).
Ciao
Mauro
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