Inverted vs. Non Inverted

Status
Not open for further replies.
tbla said:
I could make my inverting Amp with a BUF634 Buffer and an even lower impedance feedback loop and use any number of other tricks to go beyond the performance

please explain that - perhaps new thread......?
Diamond buffer (which BUF 634 is) can drive notably heavy loads so if you buffer the IGC with it, you can use 22k/1k or 22k/680R (or even lower values) feedback network for the inverted GC.

Pedja
 
I think it is time to actually do a controlled, like for like test of this, meaning matched gains, identical components etc., as we have plenty "Apples & Pears" comparisons which are unlikely ever to have been level matched.


I suggest I'll build a "gainclone" using a circuit that offers a "semi-balanced" input with XLR's as jacks. This will be driven by a TVC based linestage and the Ack!dAck.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am game, but would propose the simplest of topography, and driven by a resistor based passive of which I have several. I am in central London.

How are you going to use identical components when the NI is direct coupled and the INV has a coupling cap?
 
I'm All ears!

If this ABX comes to fruition, I would like to be considered. I have no audiophile kit (but some great ARCAM stuff!!). I am not an audiophile, or a classical musician, but I *do* have an ear for music! If this "listen-in" is in the new year, then I would be honoured to come to town.

Alll the best

Jon
 
D soundz of d buffer

Peter Daniel said:
But than you will _hear_ the buffer.😉

Hmm… yes, I know. 😉 Actually it was just a few days ago when I listened to my AD844 common base I/V with and without its output buffer (again it is diamond). And yes, though it is not night and day, there is the difference. Without it the acoustic instruments have more natural colors, but with it the dynamics is better and the bass is deeper and this applies to all recording types I listened to. So that is with and without it. I liked it more with. Just please don’t tell me you like it simple, I like it simple too! And all this happened at the 100kOhm load. Hmm, what will happen on the 10k load? I’ll check this buffer very soon in the discrete implementation as a front end for the IGC.

How's your buffer project?

Pedja
 
This reminds me of my days back-packing around our lovely planet!

You could always tell the newbies who would have huge bulging backpacks, carrying far more than they would ever need.

The next stage was the 'I'm not a newbie' syndrome where people carried next to nothing in order to differentiate themselves from the newbies. Of course, they managed to do this as they scrounged off other backpackers.

The really experienced backpackers carried neither too much nor too little! :yinyang:
 
Re: Re: Inverted vs. Non Inverted

Konnichiwa,

fmak said:
I am game, but would propose the simplest of topography,

Which is what I will do.

fmak said:
and driven by a resistor based passive

Why bother? TVC is vastly superior AND allows for the simple switchover of mode as described due to balanced output.

fmak said:
How are you going to use identical components when the NI is direct coupled and the INV has a coupling cap?

I am going to use EXACTLY the same Amplifier, the only change being the grounding of either one or the other input (signal) side of the pseudo balanced input. Doing this keeps ALL parts, values, gain, polarity etc the same with straight and noiseless switching using a simple "center neutral" DPDT toggle switch.

Sayonara
 
Re: Re: Re: Inverted vs. Non Inverted

Kuei Yang Wang said:
Konnichiwa,

Which is what I will do.

Why bother? TVC is vastly superior AND allows for the simple switchover of mode as described due to balanced output.
-------------------------------------------------------------

Fine, but I would want to compare on my Audio Synthesis Passion V (imoproved) on phono, or my balanced Carver passive.

I am not fond of transformer coupling as this has it's own colour. The question is TVC may sound superior in a system but simplification is best in the case in point.

Note: I can't do it until mid Decemeber.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Inverted vs. Non Inverted

Konnichiwa,

fmak said:
Fine, but I would want to compare on my Audio Synthesis Passion V (imoproved) on phono, or my balanced Carver passive.

Well, that would mean "not in my system". And I'm not making a "Demo" amp, I would merely build my "spare" amp (which is in the offing for a long time)

fmak said:
I am not fond of transformer coupling as this has it's own colour.

And I am not (any longer) fond of resistive attenuators, as their own sonic coloration (arguably mostly subtractive) detract.

At any extent, using ANY other methode removes the "level playing field" unless we add a 1:1 balancing transformer into the mix (again).

fmak said:
The question is TVC may sound superior in a system but simplification is best in the case in point.

I agree that simplification is best, in which case a TVC is best.

fmak said:
Note: I can't do it until mid Decemeber.

Nor can I, probably new year....

Sayonara
 
Status
Not open for further replies.