Hi all,
I've been and an amateur DIY enthusiast for some time now and have embarked on a very haphazard mission to mod some speakers.
It goes within my understanding the best way to upgrade a speaker is: Crossover components, wiring, tweeter.
What I have been advised is changing the tweeter is often a good way to improve sound, however swapping the woofer as well as this without testing is likely to fail. Crossovers were designed for the interaction between them and the woofer right? Then minimising distortion of the drivers within the cabinet.
So a straight swap won't work? In theory you'd be lucky. I just wanted to share a very genuine story about how it did.
I took the Roksan TR5 S2, the Fountek Neo 3.5H, Chord Odessy for internal wiring and and the HiVi mag/alu drivers,: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274376866493
While the tweeters are rated at 96DB and are a little loud I think they have integrated beautifully. I've had to chisel into the cabinet to fit the drivers and the woofers are a tad small for the cabinet recession, what I have done very easily, and relatively cheaply, is created and absolution stunning hybrid speaker with very little work and technical knowhow. Im utterly stunned.
Im using Maranta KI pearl CD/AMP combo and Chord Sig speaker cable and jumpers.
Any comments on obvious dangerous mistakes or thoughts would be great, Im looking into an L-PAD to attenuate the tweeter but so far am not compelled, they sound crisp clean rhythmic and balanced.
Happy to post pictures in due course
Kind regards
Rob
I've been and an amateur DIY enthusiast for some time now and have embarked on a very haphazard mission to mod some speakers.
It goes within my understanding the best way to upgrade a speaker is: Crossover components, wiring, tweeter.
What I have been advised is changing the tweeter is often a good way to improve sound, however swapping the woofer as well as this without testing is likely to fail. Crossovers were designed for the interaction between them and the woofer right? Then minimising distortion of the drivers within the cabinet.
So a straight swap won't work? In theory you'd be lucky. I just wanted to share a very genuine story about how it did.
I took the Roksan TR5 S2, the Fountek Neo 3.5H, Chord Odessy for internal wiring and and the HiVi mag/alu drivers,: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274376866493
While the tweeters are rated at 96DB and are a little loud I think they have integrated beautifully. I've had to chisel into the cabinet to fit the drivers and the woofers are a tad small for the cabinet recession, what I have done very easily, and relatively cheaply, is created and absolution stunning hybrid speaker with very little work and technical knowhow. Im utterly stunned.
Im using Maranta KI pearl CD/AMP combo and Chord Sig speaker cable and jumpers.
Any comments on obvious dangerous mistakes or thoughts would be great, Im looking into an L-PAD to attenuate the tweeter but so far am not compelled, they sound crisp clean rhythmic and balanced.
Happy to post pictures in due course
Kind regards
Rob
Welcome to the forums.
I'm guessing that you'll not want to bring your treble down now, but later in time that will turn the other way.
I'm guessing that you'll not want to bring your treble down now, but later in time that will turn the other way.
5-6? Perhaps you're confusing that with baffle step compensation?
It's reasonable to reduce the treble until it barely becomes inaudible as a separate entity, ie it blends with the mids. The problem is that the crossover can hinder good blending. This can be a reason why playing it at lower levels can be disappointing and a good balanced tweeter can sound interesting at a more pronounced higher level... except that one day you'll want to go for balanced mids as well.
It's reasonable to reduce the treble until it barely becomes inaudible as a separate entity, ie it blends with the mids. The problem is that the crossover can hinder good blending. This can be a reason why playing it at lower levels can be disappointing and a good balanced tweeter can sound interesting at a more pronounced higher level... except that one day you'll want to go for balanced mids as well.
So the crossover design is rated for 88Db @8ohms. My tweeters are 96Db, I'm not sure what the crossovers are rate @ as stock but the treble is forward and distorts a little at higher volumes with high female vocals for example. I think reducing the Db should help that.
The general sound is excellent but, as an example, sounds behind glass on movies, i.e muffled sounds, sound very muffled, too much so. Otherwise it a hell of a combination.
This design is very similar is the old IPL acoustics range, does anyone have a signal diagram for those or one for the actual TR5 S2 crossovers?
The general sound is excellent but, as an example, sounds behind glass on movies, i.e muffled sounds, sound very muffled, too much so. Otherwise it a hell of a combination.
This design is very similar is the old IPL acoustics range, does anyone have a signal diagram for those or one for the actual TR5 S2 crossovers?
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Using a crossover from another speaker which you like, will not give you any of the benefits from it because it doesn't fit. It sounds as though you could start with some control over the tweeter levels. Maybe a variable L-pad or at least a selection of resistors.
I also notice that some of what you say seems to conflict a little. I'm sure it's just that I don't know the finer details at this point, but it's a good thing to have a microphone you can use to measure a plot of response to see where the issues might be.
I also notice that some of what you say seems to conflict a little. I'm sure it's just that I don't know the finer details at this point, but it's a good thing to have a microphone you can use to measure a plot of response to see where the issues might be.