I'm going to add another point to this argument.
AoE has it's audience entirely confused.
Most of the information in there is geared towards beginners. Great! At the same time, they assume you aren't a beginner by glossing over more complex topics, asking questions you're unable to answer, providing "bad circuit" examples without explanations you're not yet skilled enough to decipher yourself..
That's where I rate this book a 1.
It still, has ALOT of very good information though.
AoE has it's audience entirely confused.
Most of the information in there is geared towards beginners. Great! At the same time, they assume you aren't a beginner by glossing over more complex topics, asking questions you're unable to answer, providing "bad circuit" examples without explanations you're not yet skilled enough to decipher yourself..
That's where I rate this book a 1.
It still, has ALOT of very good information though.
Re: Guys like you might "create" it.....
Takes only one year here:
http://www.elec.qmul.ac.uk/study/msc/mscdsp.html
...or if you really want to specialise:
http://www.elec.qmul.ac.uk/study/msc/mscdmp.html
Jocko Homo said:Once DSP becomes commonplace, there will lots of cookbook solutions available to those who don't want to spend half their life learning the math and/or wrtiting pipeline code.
Jocko
Takes only one year here:
http://www.elec.qmul.ac.uk/study/msc/mscdsp.html
...or if you really want to specialise:
http://www.elec.qmul.ac.uk/study/msc/mscdmp.html
mikeks said:
No single book, but these might help...:
http://diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=478206#post478206
Cool thanks.
Since you seem to feel the same way I do about AoE, I trust those will be more to my liking and I think I'll save up for them.
I think one would be foolish to think one book would cover it all, there are alot of bad books though, and a thread like this can help one avoid them.
Cheers
classd4sure said:It still, has ALOT of very good information though.
I am sorry to say...it's mostly useless as a primary text.....good only as an occasional reference perhaps....

classd4sure said:I think one would be foolish to think one book would cover it all ......
Very!
Extremely!
🙁
At my current level I do refer to it a fair bit, but most of my answers I find online, having a somewhat decent ability at ferreting out the bad information, for which there is plenty.
...examine a book in your local lib. before you commit to buying....
Whether or not a book 'works' for you, and 'flows' for you is a very personal thing...like preference for a particular shape in the opposite sex.....food...etc.....
Trust moi.... 🙂
Whether or not a book 'works' for you, and 'flows' for you is a very personal thing...like preference for a particular shape in the opposite sex.....food...etc.....
Trust moi.... 🙂
mikeks said:...examine a book in your local lib. before you commit to buying....
HAR HAR ...... SNORT..... heh...
Yeah that's good advice but it sadly doesn't apply to where I live.
classd4sure said:..........most of my answers I find online ...............
THE best source... 🙂
You may get this to begin with....
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...f=sr_1_1/103-8554573-2770237?v=glance&s=books
...and look at getting the rest later...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...f=sr_1_1/103-8554573-2770237?v=glance&s=books
...and look at getting the rest later...
It comes with a free copy of EWB lol, I knew the day would come when they'd have to give it away.
I thank you for the book recommendations though, I will consider them.
I thank you for the book recommendations though, I will consider them.
classd4sure said:It comes with a free copy of EWB ............
No actually, the 5th edition comes with a free copy of Orcad Pspice Lite....
Which is essentially useless...

Get LTSpice...Free with no limits!
...or try the superior Simetrix intro...free as well.... 🙂
...or try the superior Simetrix intro...free as well....
AAh yes, you've recommended that one to me before as I recall.
I do plan on trying it soon, I like that it's available for Linux! Hopefully more will follow their lead.
Re: I thought that you were going to tone down your attitude
Well, he got a rise out of you, so...
Jocko Homo said:Glad that lasted all of what.........4 hours?
Jocko
Well, he got a rise out of you, so...
john curl said:If some of you folks would just buy 'The Art of Electronics' you would be WAY AHEAD of the game. 90% of everything that an amateur would need is in this one book. Also, it is readable. More so than many other books named in the survey. I have hundreds of textbooks, but I don't recommend them all to you, because they are specialized, arcane, and seemed interesting to me at the time of purchase. How about Maxwell's original papers? Heaviside anyone? Steinmetz? And you people talk about first principles! ;-)
John,
I couldn't agree more.
Horowitz, The Art of Electronics, should obligatory be read before putting stupid questions on this forum........
This forum has a box to be checked "have you searched?" before being able to start a new thread.
There should be a second box: "Have you searched Horowitz?"
Reading application notes and datasheets of the parts applied would be my second best suggestion.
😎
Re: Re: another book
You know Michael, I got this book on CD, printed it double sided and had it hand-bound. Nothing beats the smell and feel of paper... Call me ancient..😉
Jan Didden
mikeks said:
You know Michael, I got this book on CD, printed it double sided and had it hand-bound. Nothing beats the smell and feel of paper... Call me ancient..😉
Jan Didden
Today i recived Bob Pease troubleshooting book, the picture on the cover alone is worth the money!
Best picture is Bob throwing a computer off the top of a NSC building. Next is using a SPICE printout as bird cage liner.
Enjoy it, you'll get lots out of it.
Jocko
Enjoy it, you'll get lots out of it.
Jocko
AKSA said:..............getting just about any topology to sound good with proper voicing..........
Just use tone controls....this will save a vast amount of hassle methinks... 🙂
john curl said:.....................the problem of E-I output limiters and sound quality........................
These shouldn't be a problem.....
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