I want to get a flat speaker impedance curve.
So I will use a zobel for the top end, R and C in series, parallel to speaker.
(This one is no problem)
For the lower impedance peak I will use R, L, C in series, parallel to speaker.
(Not that sure how to calculate that one yet.)
Maybe it is a stupid question, but can I get away with just one R?
So I will use a zobel for the top end, R and C in series, parallel to speaker.
(This one is no problem)
For the lower impedance peak I will use R, L, C in series, parallel to speaker.
(Not that sure how to calculate that one yet.)
Maybe it is a stupid question, but can I get away with just one R?
You mean an LC series network (let's call it L1 C1) in parallel with a C (C2) and then one R in series with the whole thing? That will result in an extra resonance of L1 with C1 and C2 together. The impedance of your correction network ideally goes to infinity at f = 1/(2 pi sqrt(L1 C1 C2/(C1 + C2))), but I have no idea whether that would be a problem.
You mean an LC series network (let's call it L1 C1) in parallel with a C (C2) and then one R in series with the whole thing?
Exactly.
You can design such a correction using XSim. With a little help from BYRTT I did something similar for my arrays.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/242171-towers-25-driver-range-line-array-116.html#post4323229
The XSim schematics
It changed the impedance plot from the blue into the purple curve:
Comparison of phase before and after correction
I later removed the network correcting the top end. I liked the sound better without the top end correction.
Based on subjective listening impressions I kept the correction at the impedance peak. Its still there after years.
This plot is showing the impedance and it's electrical phase
With my use, using EQ below Fs and being an array etc, might not be a good example to compare to a single driver though.
Just evaluate your own preference of such a network.
The technique will be similar. The impedance plot of the arrays looks like one from a single driver.
This might give you something to start with. In X-Sim you can see how much energy goes trough each component, so it's easy to see what you need, spec wise.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/242171-towers-25-driver-range-line-array-116.html#post4323229

The XSim schematics
It changed the impedance plot from the blue into the purple curve:

Comparison of phase before and after correction
I later removed the network correcting the top end. I liked the sound better without the top end correction.
Based on subjective listening impressions I kept the correction at the impedance peak. Its still there after years.

This plot is showing the impedance and it's electrical phase
With my use, using EQ below Fs and being an array etc, might not be a good example to compare to a single driver though.
Just evaluate your own preference of such a network.
The technique will be similar. The impedance plot of the arrays looks like one from a single driver.
This might give you something to start with. In X-Sim you can see how much energy goes trough each component, so it's easy to see what you need, spec wise.
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Thanks for the detailed answer.
I really like that purple "curve".
XSim seems to be a good idea.
But...
how will I get my (measured) impedance curve into XSim?
I really like that purple "curve".
XSim seems to be a good idea.
But...
how will I get my (measured) impedance curve into XSim?
Maybe it is a stupid question, but can I get away with just one R?
Well, if you think about it; A resistor does not change its resistance with frequency so it will be impossible to make a frequency specific compensation with a resistor only. Now, impedance compensation for a tweeter is common place but doing the same for woofers are rare and thinking about it I never saw that. It's probably due to that it will take really big inductors as the peak is usually at such a low frequency (30-60Hz?). Low frequency => big inductors and big capacitors => expansive...
Why you want to make a tweeter impedance linear is to ensure that the high-pass filter will work the best and not to make the load linear to the amplifier really... just so you know.
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how will I get my (measured) impedance curve into XSim?
I exported my impedance measurement from REW to ZMA and imported that curve into XSim (at the driver).
Double click on the driver and you can import the ZMA file.
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Well, if you think about it; A resistor does not change its resistance with frequency so it will be impossible to make a frequency specific compensation with a resistor only. Now, impedance compensation for a tweeter is common place but doing the same for woofers are rare and thinking about it I never saw that. It's probably due to that it will take really big inductors as the peak is usually at such a low frequency (30-60Hz?). Low frequency => big inductors and big capacitors => expansive...
Why you want to make a tweeter impedance linear is to ensure that the high-pass filter will work the best and not to make the load linear to the amplifier really... just so you know.
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Thanks.
Yes I know.
But I want/need to hear it.
I don`t care about cost.
I exported my impedance measurement from REW to ZMA and imported that curve into XSim.
OK.
I checked just now, DATS can save .zma.
Can I use this directly with XSim?
I suppose so, you can add the ZMA as data into the driver. It also supports to insert a frequency curve.
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