I'm building a line array and I need a sub to fill in up to 100hz.
I would like to be able to put it in a corner facing diagonally out. I would like to have it match the sound and style of the line array. So...if I take four 10" drivers and place them in a line on the front of a 6' tall 6 cu ft sealed round cabinet what should I expect? What if I cut the cabinet in two stacking three-foot pieces? What would be a suitable driver for this arrangement? I assume it would need to work well in a very small enclosure (1.5 ft per driver). Is there any reason not to run the sub in stereo?
Thanks
Tom
I would like to be able to put it in a corner facing diagonally out. I would like to have it match the sound and style of the line array. So...if I take four 10" drivers and place them in a line on the front of a 6' tall 6 cu ft sealed round cabinet what should I expect? What if I cut the cabinet in two stacking three-foot pieces? What would be a suitable driver for this arrangement? I assume it would need to work well in a very small enclosure (1.5 ft per driver). Is there any reason not to run the sub in stereo?
Thanks
Tom
I would say that for "real" bass you ned to go stereo.
Some folks even run 5 subs in surround!
Only reasons not to use stereo subs are $ and space in listening room.
I have no idea on what driver to use...
Some folks even run 5 subs in surround!
Only reasons not to use stereo subs are $ and space in listening room.
I have no idea on what driver to use...
tom1356 said:
Stereo Subs are preferred IMO. Peerless makes some nice 10s, there is a Titanic 10" and there may be some Lambda 10s still available (and on clearout) -- Stryke is still listing them. 2 cabinets would be easier to move about.
My preference is to always try to mount the drivers push-push.
dave
bass
''Stereo Subs are preferred IMO''
since when does bass have stereo information below 100hz?
do u mean above 100hz,but then i thoht a sub is 100hz and below (imao) :-D
below that it just wud make more Db
i have heard of combfiltereing yuckness when having several subs but cant remember the conditions.
🙂
push push/push pull is good cos it reduces 2nd harmonics altho i think 3rd no effect 🙁
''Stereo Subs are preferred IMO''
since when does bass have stereo information below 100hz?
do u mean above 100hz,but then i thoht a sub is 100hz and below (imao) :-D
below that it just wud make more Db
i have heard of combfiltereing yuckness when having several subs but cant remember the conditions.
🙂
push push/push pull is good cos it reduces 2nd harmonics altho i think 3rd no effect 🙁
Re: bass
Some people still like stereo subs, meaning below 100 Hz. Even though a part of physical (sound/wave) theory states that you cannot tell where sound is coming from if a quarter of the wave-length is more than the distance between your ears. For most that is 350 Hz. Some say that you can still tell.
Illusion audio claims that subs are direction (therefore stereo is desired) so they design their subs to be installed in the front of your car instead of the back. They say: How many times have you been to a concert and the bass is coming from behind you?
Bass maynot be directional, but probably sounds best in stereo to some people for other reasons. I would imagine time delay for each channel between sub and non-sub frequencies. And even if this is not the case and your speakers are stereo and both 20 ft away from your head and you have one sub 20 ft away from your head, if it's located in a different physical part of the room it's a very good possiblity that it will sound like it's in a different part of the room, possibly making it sound as if the sound it's producing cannot be coming from the part of the room that your non-sub frequencies are coming from.
And the only way to avoid this if you have stereo speakers is to build stereo subs and place them close to where your speakers are. And if you have five channels, as the dude Planet10 was referring to, you build five subs, if your
like that. What do you think?
mikee12345 said:''Stereo Subs are preferred IMO''
since when does bass have stereo information below 100hz?
do u mean above 100hz,but then i thoht a sub is 100hz and below (imao) :-D
below that it just wud make more Db
i have heard of combfiltereing yuckness when having several subs but cant remember the conditions.
🙂
push push/push pull is good cos it reduces 2nd harmonics altho i think 3rd no effect 🙁
Some people still like stereo subs, meaning below 100 Hz. Even though a part of physical (sound/wave) theory states that you cannot tell where sound is coming from if a quarter of the wave-length is more than the distance between your ears. For most that is 350 Hz. Some say that you can still tell.
Illusion audio claims that subs are direction (therefore stereo is desired) so they design their subs to be installed in the front of your car instead of the back. They say: How many times have you been to a concert and the bass is coming from behind you?
Bass maynot be directional, but probably sounds best in stereo to some people for other reasons. I would imagine time delay for each channel between sub and non-sub frequencies. And even if this is not the case and your speakers are stereo and both 20 ft away from your head and you have one sub 20 ft away from your head, if it's located in a different physical part of the room it's a very good possiblity that it will sound like it's in a different part of the room, possibly making it sound as if the sound it's producing cannot be coming from the part of the room that your non-sub frequencies are coming from.
And the only way to avoid this if you have stereo speakers is to build stereo subs and place them close to where your speakers are. And if you have five channels, as the dude Planet10 was referring to, you build five subs, if your
like that. What do you think?- Status
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