You haven't shown anything that directly links those studies you've cited to boutique DACs, cables and amps producing superior audible sound quality.
Please a little harmless exaggeration to wake you up.
I've said several times I read most of the ITU methodology and agreed that it is a good start. But markw4 claims it is impossibly time consuming and expensive so we are left with his stories of listening impressions presented as facts. Maybe he is taking your advice about improperly conducted double blind tests destroying one's ability to hear subtle differences.Sorry sighted listening of clock rolling does not "establish evidence".
Well...
There are two ways of interpreting such a result:
1. All violins sound the same
2. Blind testing for such things can be problematic
If the answer is 1., then there is an enormous problem, as we would have proven that subjective evaluation of sound and music is terribly flawed... If that is so, how does a conductor do his job? Or a music producer? Or a mastering engineer?
IMO, the thing is, all of these professional people live and breathe music, and sound evaluation, they are experienced at what they do, and they have learned how to do it.
There are two ways of interpreting such a result:
1. All violins sound the same
2. Blind testing for such things can be problematic
If the answer is 1., then there is an enormous problem, as we would have proven that subjective evaluation of sound and music is terribly flawed... If that is so, how does a conductor do his job? Or a music producer? Or a mastering engineer?
IMO, the thing is, all of these professional people live and breathe music, and sound evaluation, they are experienced at what they do, and they have learned how to do it.
I happened to listen to two violins visiting a musician of an opera house. One of them was a German violin of the late 18th century. A second violin was bought in a store for his daughter at a music school. It is useless to blindfold. Not to mention the sound quality, I can say that the German violin sounds even much stronger and louder. Only the deaf will not hear this difference.
The sound, of course, is also of a completely different quality.
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Yes...
I fully admit that my statement was an oversimplification, in order to make a point. The gist of the statement still applies though, As far as I am concerned.
I fully admit that my statement was an oversimplification, in order to make a point. The gist of the statement still applies though, As far as I am concerned.
He's been listening sighted? If so, that explains why he won't disclose the details of his listening test setup.
That point being a business agenda to push. Why would I say that? You work for a company that sells boutique DACs.
Agreed.
And also, even if every tiny step of improvement can't be detected by human ears, accumulation of the improvements could be clearly heard in the future. No one knows.
Sisyphus had a challenge too. At times I see the value of a -160dB audio DAC as about on the level of Ronnie O'Sullivan doing the world's fastest 147 in snooker. I hope you never take any of my comments as personal, there is a world of other things served by the engineering community.
I also really like the amazing movie Red Violin, fr. Le Violon Rouge is a movie made by Francois Girard. About the fate of the old violin and how long it changed owners and why it was exactly red. An exciting film, I recommend it to everyone.
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GUNFU, I found and watched the film Whiplash, and I thank you for recommending it.
The theme appears extreme, as I have only had one guy, Bill Graham, of Fillmore fame, behave in such a way, and he had minimal effect on getting the most out of anybody using that technique.
I have studied ballet seriously, and I know well the dancer-instructor relationship, which is strong, as well as being faculty at an institute in Switzerland, where I noted the interaction of the classical musicians with their mentors, again serious, strong, but not like the guy in the film. I think the guy went too far, and lost a good deal of potential talent because of it.
The theme appears extreme, as I have only had one guy, Bill Graham, of Fillmore fame, behave in such a way, and he had minimal effect on getting the most out of anybody using that technique.
I have studied ballet seriously, and I know well the dancer-instructor relationship, which is strong, as well as being faculty at an institute in Switzerland, where I noted the interaction of the classical musicians with their mentors, again serious, strong, but not like the guy in the film. I think the guy went too far, and lost a good deal of potential talent because of it.
John, Didn't see anything about cables scheduled for Vienna, but did find the following: MAY - Audio Engineering Society - Los Angeles
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