Circlotron said:
ahh yes... anyone wanna sponsor my 8inch venom rebuild? I was thinking of using the magnets off the 15inch venoms 2 magnet assemblies... so 4 magnets... and I'd have to find a suitable voice coil... 😀
Pioneer used to make some rather nice drivers, they even made ribbon tweeters at one point, there car drivers are not as good as they used to be, since moving to Mexico in 1995, no offence.
There was a big quality jump down from the Japanese products.
Those Pioneer units are not bad, the magnet is a nice strontium unit and the coil is of very good quality.
To me they sound rather over dampend and can sound flappy.
On the positive there loud and robust, they do well with most music and are good value for money, much more so than other drivers at the same price range for other manufacturers.
Nothing to be ashamed of there.
There was a big quality jump down from the Japanese products.
Those Pioneer units are not bad, the magnet is a nice strontium unit and the coil is of very good quality.
To me they sound rather over dampend and can sound flappy.
On the positive there loud and robust, they do well with most music and are good value for money, much more so than other drivers at the same price range for other manufacturers.
Nothing to be ashamed of there.
my mate designed a 35hz basshorn for me with the pioneer tsw-305c, which i think is the one below that model you got. if you can get someone to model up a horn design for them, they will definatly make a good basshorn 😀
and the 8" venoms, used to have two of them aswell as a 10"
the 8" venoms can be used in a 40hz horn enclosure too
and the 8" venoms, used to have two of them aswell as a 10"
the 8" venoms can be used in a 40hz horn enclosure too
darth_sanchez said:
Thank you David for correcting my flag.
The TSW 301 was even better than the TSW 305 F or C.
The futher down the line you go the better they where.
Not anymore in my ears.
Basshorns can make almost anything sound powerful!
The enclosure makes the speaker, not the other way around.
darth_sanchez said:
according to the box, the subs I have ARE the 305C's 😛
if I wanted a horn I'd design my own... lol which I may do, as well as a sealed, and a ported, then compare the output of all three (in a car 😀)
sweeet as!!!
well i can tell you that those subs in the horn will produce over 130db which is plenty of loudness for a room!!
the efficiency of the subs in the horn is around 107db which is quite loud and will easily overpower the sound of ported and sealed designs.
if your good at woodworking skills, you should try modeling up these for a horn enclosure 😀
hmm if you wanted them in a car, i doubt that the horn will fit in unless you have got something big.
well i can tell you that those subs in the horn will produce over 130db which is plenty of loudness for a room!!
the efficiency of the subs in the horn is around 107db which is quite loud and will easily overpower the sound of ported and sealed designs.
if your good at woodworking skills, you should try modeling up these for a horn enclosure 😀
hmm if you wanted them in a car, i doubt that the horn will fit in unless you have got something big.
Bass Horns in a car gents? it would make me hurrel, there is so much gain in a car the bass would be OTT.
It really depends on what you want from the sound but incar a sealed system is best done you think?
Thats how i see it typically.
It really depends on what you want from the sound but incar a sealed system is best done you think?
Thats how i see it typically.
I read about the Pioneer PREMIER TS-W2000SPL SUBWOOFER. Its Xmax is given as 25mm. Its cone diameter is 7.5". One advantage of smaller cones with greater Xmax is that a smaller cabinet works better. I wonder what other woofers are comparable.
Premier® 12" Component SPLspec Subwoofer
Features:
Interlaced Carbon Fiber / Glass Fiber Reinforced IMPP Cone Woofer
Wide-Roll, 3-Layer Fiber Woven Radial Surround with Honeycomb Cloth
Double 4-Layer, Long Voice Coil (2 x 4ohm)
4-Slit Glass Imide Voice Coil Bobbin
Conex Damper with Damper Ring
Projected Pole Yoke with Vented Pole
Double Stacked Magnets (110 oz.)
Thick 7/8" (20mm) Top Plate
Aluminum Die-Cast One-Piece Rigid Chassis
Silver Binding Posts
1-Piece Rubber Gasket
Accessory Grille (UD-G305) Available
Specifications
2000 Watts Max. Music Power
750 Watts Nominal Power Handling
Dual Voice Coil Design (2ohm or 8ohm)
Frequency Response: 18 - 2kHz
Sensitivity: 89dB (1W/1m)
Recommended Enclosure: 1.5 Cubic Feet
Premier® 12" Component SPLspec Subwoofer
Features:
Interlaced Carbon Fiber / Glass Fiber Reinforced IMPP Cone Woofer
Wide-Roll, 3-Layer Fiber Woven Radial Surround with Honeycomb Cloth
Double 4-Layer, Long Voice Coil (2 x 4ohm)
4-Slit Glass Imide Voice Coil Bobbin
Conex Damper with Damper Ring
Projected Pole Yoke with Vented Pole
Double Stacked Magnets (110 oz.)
Thick 7/8" (20mm) Top Plate
Aluminum Die-Cast One-Piece Rigid Chassis
Silver Binding Posts
1-Piece Rubber Gasket
Accessory Grille (UD-G305) Available
Specifications
2000 Watts Max. Music Power
750 Watts Nominal Power Handling
Dual Voice Coil Design (2ohm or 8ohm)
Frequency Response: 18 - 2kHz
Sensitivity: 89dB (1W/1m)
Recommended Enclosure: 1.5 Cubic Feet
Hey,
How do those Ts-w305c sound skinny boy???
I once saw them at the melbourne motor show and they were playing very loud in sealed enclosures. Like the bass could be heard right outside ( very loud )
Thanks
Stefan😉
How do those Ts-w305c sound skinny boy???
I once saw them at the melbourne motor show and they were playing very loud in sealed enclosures. Like the bass could be heard right outside ( very loud )
Thanks
Stefan😉
Hi,
At strathfeild you can get a pair of them in a " PIoneer Box" for like $529 I belive.
What is so diffrent about a pioneer box then jsut a normal box, cause that price is really stupid to me.
I LOVE the look of the subs, and what I heard sounded good to me at the motor show ( 2 of them pumping in that pioneer box ) .
What are you goign to use them for Skinny Boy? Are you trying ported, pelase tell me how you go.
http://www.strathfield.com/ViewProduct.asp?ProdID=1001
Thanks
Stefan
😉
At strathfeild you can get a pair of them in a " PIoneer Box" for like $529 I belive.
What is so diffrent about a pioneer box then jsut a normal box, cause that price is really stupid to me.
I LOVE the look of the subs, and what I heard sounded good to me at the motor show ( 2 of them pumping in that pioneer box ) .
What are you goign to use them for Skinny Boy? Are you trying ported, pelase tell me how you go.
http://www.strathfield.com/ViewProduct.asp?ProdID=1001
Thanks
Stefan
😉
the sealed box that pioneer sell the subs in is WAY below the size pioneer reccomends... and honestly, you can tell.. 😛
60 litres for both, and they reccomend 45 each.. 😛
edit: actually, there's not much difference in the modeled response.. guess they just suck in a sealed box.. lol
60 litres for both, and they reccomend 45 each.. 😛
edit: actually, there's not much difference in the modeled response.. guess they just suck in a sealed box.. lol
lol- Darth sanchez- can you please build the basshorn before everyone tries it,as theres no prototype yet
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