Well there are subjective improvements and then there are objective undeniable improvements that everyone can obviously see. I shoot for the latter myself
I agree, either state your position, ideas, whatever, and the foundation on which they are based or there is nothing to talk about. You alude to the fact that "your's" are better than others but you won't say what they are or why that is.

Time to move on. We are wasting this oh so valuable cable thread with another form of conjecture. Such a shame.
That's just what every other audiophool does.
Why shouldn't "audiophools" follow their personal taste when all"audiosmarts" don't agree on anything? Do you think that when I was asking for a definition of "accuracy and neutrality" I did that because I am a fool of any kind? 😀
From what Key told you above,of all things sound engineers do to a recording,which of them you find accurate enough so as to leave the real sounds intact?
Why shouldn't "audiophools" follow their personal taste when all"audiosmarts" don't agree on anything?
That's simply a false assumption. It's not like they don't agree on anything.
I don't really understand the rest of your comment.
Moving right along...
Time to move on.
1200 pages already and I don't recall any mention so far of the directionality of power cords.
Clearly the plugs and sockets only work one way, but what I'm concerned about is the wire in between. Do cable manufacturers even take this seriously?
I don't recall seeing anything on the subject in any of their marketing literature, but it seems to me that it's attention to these small details that can make the difference between a truly great cable and a merely adequate one.
While I wouldn't recommend rebuilding existing cables, I do think the directionality issue is worth bearing in mind for DIYers thinking of constructing their own power cords.
Regards - Godfrey
p.s. Mods must be really bored, trying to get a cable thread back on topic. Maybe it's time to go bump one of the "capacitor burn-in" threads just to keep them busy.😀
That's simply a false assumption. It's not like they don't agree on anything.
I don't really understand the rest of your comment.
Last one on this because we are really off topic.Suppose(even as a joke) that we all agree and all have perfect systems,cables etc.....
Do we really need them to play imperfect recordings in imperfect rooms?
As far as I'm concerned all I need a system that will sound ok to me in my room.
I'm this kind of audiophool 😛
Moving right along...
p.s. Mods must be really bored, trying to get a cable thread back on topic. Maybe it's time to go bump one of the "capacitor burn-in" threads just to keep them busy.😀
Yea, kind of what I thought as well.
Last one on this because we are really off topic.Suppose(even as a joke) that we all agree and all have perfect systems,cables etc.....
Do we really need them to play imperfect recordings in imperfect rooms?
As far as I'm concerned I need a system that will sound ok to me in my room.
I'm this kind of audiophool 😛
That's simply not the point. It's about having a reproduction chain that produces predictable results. Without standardization this will never gonna happen.
That's simply not the point. It's about having a reproduction chain that produces predictable results. Without standardization this will never gonna happen.
For as long as standarization is not agreed(it will never be) "synergy" within safe/logical technical tolerances will be the solution for all of us.That's where(and why) cables can also be used as fine tuning tools.
Moving right along...
1200 pages already and I don't recall any mention so far of the directionality of power cords.
Power cords only?
For as long as standarization is not agreed(it will never be) "synergy" within safe/logical technical tolerances will be the solution for all of us.That's where(and why) cables can also be used as fine tuning tools.
Are you serious?
Are you serious?
Yes.I am confident that with imperfect recordings and rooms,even your system is based on synergy.
Hi Paulinator
Heheh,
My personal opinion is that all things you do to your system matter,
cables included. To me, in my system, most cables sound different
from each other, some "better", some "worse". 😉
I am not a "believer" when it comes to cables, though.
I usually use what I have on hand at the moment,
good or bad, the difference is not big enough
to loose any sleep over it. 🙄
I'm not a "believer" in "controlled tests" either, by the way,
they certainly don't work for me, it's hard to listen to the
music if one has to consentrate on differences between cables.
cheers 😉
... but see, this is what some of us old sound pros are guilty of doing.
Most of the time I can not tell you what song is playing, when I am working, but I can remember details about how I improved the kick drum feel or the vocal clarity.
It is like a "Search And Destroy" upon what is NOT music. I identify, locate and minimize what I hear that is confusing or deteriorating the overall sound. (Yes, certainly if you throw something back in the system that I have already removed for bad sound quality, I will find it again and remove it again.)
Listening to cables may be a special knack that most music listeners are "too distracted by what is good in what they hear" to actually succeed at.
My feeling is that people who have trouble hearing the differences between cabling systems should count their MF'ing blessings and just enjoy the music. Let those who are more focused upon the "NOT music" worry about how to fix the bad that they hear. Then, just find your own sweet spot and enjoy our effort.
🙄
BTW, I agree in that so called, "controlled tests" are a total joke, if you include a human being in the test. Once a human is present as a part of the test model and pretends to be objective, the attempt at control is forfeit. (yes, I contradicted myself)
"Angels and ministers of grace defend us ..."
Sorry folks, I just realised that I quoted an eight year old post. My comment remains, however.
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Yes.I am confident that with imperfect recordings and rooms,even your system is based on synergy.
I thought religion is not allowed on this forum??
I thought religion is not allowed on this forum??
So,can we assume that you are one of the lucky ones who own a perfect system,room and for some reason perfect recordings?I'm leaving perfect ears out🙂
I thought religion is not allowed on this forum??
Really? No religion?
How do you explain Hendrix, then?
🙂
Really? No religion?
How do you explain Hendrix, then?
🙂
That too

So,can we assume that you are one of the lucky ones who own a perfect system,room and for some reason perfect recordings?I'm leaving perfect ears out🙂
What gave you the impression I would own a perfect system, perfect recordings or I would have perfect ears?

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