No need to pity me, I can clearly hear stuff that many of you refuse to accept. As Bob said, I am just thankful that the majority of audiphile/music listeners do hear differences and the few trying to persuade them that they can't hear the differences, as it's not possible.
At least Bob is attempting to find out why, rather than conjure up reasons why we should not hear. How have any of you ever learned anything, with these brains that are so fallible that you will not trust what your ears tell you. What kind of existence is that when you no longer trust your own facilties! If pity is needed, it is not for me, but you.
My point is that the audiophools dont know and dont care about the engineering (and measurements) unless they are told to. There are probably just as many highly regarded pieces of gear that are poorly engineered and built.
I'ld like to see this experiment. Take 2 identical Krells (Levinsons etc) and put one in a Sony shell. Than let people in a Hi end audio store audition them.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I have to wonder what your system must sound like now 🙂 You are wrong. They do care, as long as it makes a difference in the perceived sound.
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Distortions have been shown to be overrated. I listen to music and how it is represented from a system. The distortion measurements do not correlate to the sound most times, if you feel that distortion is that important in a good stereo system. Hell if that were the only criteria, why wouldn't we all want to listen a Sony receiver, with its 0.0008% THD. You are welcome to suffer with that as part of your system. My ears would be bleeding in short order.
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a clear creek does not support many fish, it's the muddy water that feeds the fisherman!
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I would just love to view the schematic of a 40KW+ outputstage😱 What about
a Diy project?
I am shure my neighbors will love me😛
a Diy project?
I am shure my neighbors will love me😛Well that is a different story then. No one wants or would accept audible distortions in their systems.
I would just love to view the schematic of a 40KW+ outputstage😱 What about
a Diy project?
Me too and I have over an acre of ground around me! LOL!!!!
Weeellll.... that may not always be a bad thing, you know. Tho we do try to avoid it.
The ear tends to like a harmonic structure where the harmonics fall off in a regular and even manner. What if something upstream has a distortion heavy in odd order harmonics? Would adding some even order distortion bring it back to a more pleasant balance? Or vice-versa?
It's is not necessarily the amount of harmonic distortion we hear, but the structure. See the work of Matti Otala et al.
Do people really think that Sony products do NOT add some form of distortion? If not, then let's all buy Sony or its cheaper competitors! I love Sony, especially for video.
I even have a Sony SACD, too bad it is so good, that I only listen to it on occasion. More distortion please!
I even have a Sony SACD, too bad it is so good, that I only listen to it on occasion. More distortion please!
That's nice. Demonstrates once again many confuse 'being on the side of science' with 'any unsupported statement I make must therefore be true'. Personally I suspect the whole thing of 'sides' is self-contradictory and anti-scientific, but being an audiophool I'll just sit here until someone tells me what I really think.
Nobody said that, do you read the posts? And while your here John can you explain how a bybee filter works?
That's nice. Demonstrates once again many confuse 'being on the side of science' with 'any unsupported statement I make must therefore be true'. Personally I suspect the whole thing of 'sides' is self-contradictory and anti-scientific, but being an audiophool I'll just sit here until someone tells me what I really think.
and I dont equate audiophile with audiophool. 2 different animals
There's a slight problem with the communication format.
Sy and Andy_C are hardly ever mistaken. Its likely that some of the language in your publication was a bit misleading from a given point of view. Of course that could lead to an argument. Since judgment is based on experience, there is plenty of opportunity to have a productive experience, if you're willing.
Do please note that people who disagree are inherently more helpful than those who agree.
Probably the problem is one of language.
This is simple, but it may be hard to implement. If your writing sample here is an indication, then its probable that some simplification and a tighter focus, could help. Therefore, I'm thinking that you can use critique to make a publication that is more understandable, more specific and more application-centric.
Whenever you get critique that isn't useful, please request more specific critique, so that it can be constructive. Please be direct and ask for exactly what you want.
And, welcome to DIYaudio.com
P.S.
For the purpose effective discussion, posts here are usually in memo format, as in one topic per each posting.
I haven't kept up with this but do have a mild interest. One of my best friends is a pediatrician and he says that 90% of the kids he treats would get well with no treatment. Not placebo just the body healing itself.
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