panomaniac said:
Now that you spend time measuring, could you measure 10' instead/as well?
I guess very few have 100' between their speakers, even 20' is above average.
Magura 🙂
SY said:
If you replace "sound" with "feel" in the above statement, I'd say you're right 😉
Magura 🙂
SY said:
No, you just expect it to sound better, it is proven long ago that you can only hear to 20Hz if you have..........
Just joking there, that is quite an interesting remark.
What amplifiers are you using on them?
scott wurcer said:
Use it for EQ. ;-)
Andre Visser said:
Some Sunfire-made sub amps, 500W each. Got these from NHT ridiculously cheaply when they were cleaning the warehouse. They were apparently made for the VT-3.
Re: infra-what??
Well, I didn't get brown pants last time I was at a church concert, but they also didn't go below 16Hz 😀
Magura 🙂
auplater said:
Then, perhaps, you'd be referring to the "brown sound"??😀
Well, I didn't get brown pants last time I was at a church concert, but they also didn't go below 16Hz 😀
Magura 🙂
scott wurcer said:
I remember that, but AFAIK the Nazi's busted that myth about 65 years ago, no?
Magura 🙂
Magura said:
I think I have a 10' section left. Already chopped it up.
Might buy another, it's nice cord for power tools and stuff. Under $10 on sale.
Sy: What I got for a single conductor (all 3 same) was.
0.024mH 0.1R
Between any 2 strands showed about 1.4nF
So there may be some roll off and a little phase shift at the top, but not huge. Maybe 1/2dB and ~5 degrees I guess. But I won't be using 50' lengths. More like 12'.
Hi,
Yep. PTFE definitely is a two sided coin and IMHO it's its triboelectric properties that let it down sonically.
Just my guess though.
Cheers, 😉
scott wurcer said:
Yep. PTFE definitely is a two sided coin and IMHO it's its triboelectric properties that let it down sonically.
Just my guess though.
Cheers, 😉
Hi,
Since I absolutely agree I won't be asking for proof.
What took so long?
@Magura: There's life outside the known audible range. 20/20 doesn't cut it.
Reproduced music starts sounding like that because of errors in timing.
Cheers, 😉
SY said:
Since I absolutely agree I won't be asking for proof.
What took so long?
@Magura: There's life outside the known audible range. 20/20 doesn't cut it.
Reproduced music starts sounding like that because of errors in timing.
Cheers, 😉
My 2 cents on bass and phase in regards to realism. I use a bass reflex speaker which by definition lags in phase on the bassiest notes. I do not think it has much of an effect on disturbing the realism. Maybe we are more sensetive to phase around the same area that we are most sensetive to frequencies - the mid band vocal range.
scott wurcer said:
Me too. They play him every wednesday around here. Got to listen today while in the car. He's probably the only religious figure I have heard speak that actually makes sense to me. I have tried keeping an open mind and listening to others but always end up wanting to argue or point out flaws in what they are saying. He is the only one where I can't really argue with what he says.
Hi,
In a nutshell: Disappointed.*
Cheers, 😉
*I may elaborate on it further if you'd insist...........
analog_sa said:
In a nutshell: Disappointed.*
Cheers, 😉
*I may elaborate on it further if you'd insist...........
Sigma Drive
Was Kenwood's 80's Sigma Drive using 4 cables a form of closed loop remote sensing, and can it be easily practiced in DIY so to avoid most speaker cable controversies and promote better control in an economical way? I haven't any experience with such a Kenwood, maybe someone had and swapped cable types too?
''Kenwood Electronics - Sigma Drive
Kenwood's Sigma Drive has been widely acclaimed as an effective means of providing optimum speaker control and an extremely high damping factor right up to the speaker input terminals. In addition to the normal speaker leads, a special "Sigma" connection feeds distortion products caused in the speaker wires and in the speakers themselves back into the amplifier's NFB loop for effective compensation. The result is a total control over the speaker's behaviour, with optimum damping of unwanted speaker movement. [...] Sigma Drive is also employed between the pre-amp and power-amp stages where it compensates for any signal loss in the interconnection and permits low impedance drive throughout the frequency range.''
Was Kenwood's 80's Sigma Drive using 4 cables a form of closed loop remote sensing, and can it be easily practiced in DIY so to avoid most speaker cable controversies and promote better control in an economical way? I haven't any experience with such a Kenwood, maybe someone had and swapped cable types too?
''Kenwood Electronics - Sigma Drive
Kenwood's Sigma Drive has been widely acclaimed as an effective means of providing optimum speaker control and an extremely high damping factor right up to the speaker input terminals. In addition to the normal speaker leads, a special "Sigma" connection feeds distortion products caused in the speaker wires and in the speakers themselves back into the amplifier's NFB loop for effective compensation. The result is a total control over the speaker's behaviour, with optimum damping of unwanted speaker movement. [...] Sigma Drive is also employed between the pre-amp and power-amp stages where it compensates for any signal loss in the interconnection and permits low impedance drive throughout the frequency range.''
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