Overpriced and pointless. They offer nothing generic commercial solders from companies like Multicore and if you can't solder with these, then get someone to teach you.Panicos K said:
I can solder with any of the 7-8 different solders I use🙂 One of them,I'm using for MC cartridge coils🙂
scott wurcer said:
Thanks🙂 I only have a couple of spools I bought from audioquest distributor in Greece a few years ago.I believe it is not a rebranded one.
I use it (Wonder) cause I like the way it flows and my joints just seem mechanically better than with a lot of other solders. Not the only thing I use (hello Kester) but nice enough.
Don't know if it is rebranded.
Don't know if it is rebranded.
It is. Audio snake oil peddlers don't have lead foundries, they just buy standard stuff in a box with their logo and resell it for high markups with a BS story.
I use silver-bearing solder for just the same reason- it flows beautifully and makes a nice-looking joint. I'm sure that the Radio Shack stuff I use is no good for audio, but the electrons don't seem to realize that.
I use silver-bearing solder for just the same reason- it flows beautifully and makes a nice-looking joint. I'm sure that the Radio Shack stuff I use is no good for audio, but the electrons don't seem to realize that.
As far as I know at the time I bought mine,audioquest were not selling it as "audioquest solder"but as wonder solder with stickers of TRT.Unless of course they were buying "standard stuff" and wrote someone else's name on,and not theirs.Come on SY RELAX🙂
Andre Visser said:
Sorry, I did not explain that after reading Jimmy's idea in the mag, I embarked on a series of experiments on thick and thin cables using both stranded and solid core which lasted several years. Why so long if there is nothing to it? Well this is the point, I did hear things ... subtle things ...real things .... Jimmy was right! I also believed that these differences were unexplained by science or at least the technical understanding I had at the time, Jimmy was onto something amazing and now so was I.
I felt I was a member of an exclusive club, exciting times for sure. Years later the same thing happened with interconnects ... clear differences heard here .... now I was in two exclusive clubs. Was there no end to my especially sensitive hearing?
Alas there was, I finally found out that 90% or so of what I was hearing was just in my head and the remaining 10% was easily explained by simple measurements. Call me thick call me slow.
This answer to me suggests you do not understand at all how the mind can affect your perceptions. The fact is you are not concious of everything that is going on inside your head, (unconcious mind), you have one.
This makes perfect sense to me and I said as much in my post. If the bass is stronger it can make the treble sound dull, you could probably measure that change in freq resp.
Your statements and replies suggest to me that you do not take what SY and others say seriously. So my guess is you have not done any blind tests that would stand up to peer review.
If however you have actually done so, you could be that one in a million or so, but why stop there? Collect the million dollars and no cable shall be beyond your reach. 😀 😀 Good Luck.
That's exactly what they do- except that the packaging was probably provided by the supplier.
Panicos K said:
So.........are you suggesting that some scientist (time and funds permitting) is some day going to prove what some sensitive folk have known all along? I think the reverse is more likely and the sensitive folk will be proved to be just overly sensitive souls (delusional). I actually believe this has already happened............but I could be delusional myself. 🙂
fredex said:
Can you tell us of just one thing that has been proven and wasn't there/did not exist before it has been proven?Wasn't everything a matter of time and research?
EDIT:And money of course.
Panicos K said:
What about something like cable differences that were believed to exist but proved not to? The differences did not exist before or after. Time, more research and money won't change anything here. Or am I missing your point?
fredex said:
Cable differences were and still are believed to exist.It is the proof of their existence or not existence that it is pending🙂
Has anything been proven and did not start as a belief?Except of course the cases where the "spark"was given by chance?
SY said:
I'd love to know what it is. Haven't found another that I like as much. The flux is a bit messy, but I clean that up if it neeeds it.
Do you use the Rat Shack silver? Never worked well for me. Might have to dig it out and try again. I do like silver coated copper wires. Again because they seem to solder so well.
If memory serves (it's been a while since I dealt with solder salesmen who clued me in on who was buying what), it was a Kester product.
Re: silver on silver, I absolutely concur. I used silver wiring on the small signal side of my preamp for just that reason.
Re: silver on silver, I absolutely concur. I used silver wiring on the small signal side of my preamp for just that reason.
I recently tested out some different RCA jacks, using the same base wire for each. Yes, I'm afraid that the connector makes a difference too. 
Here's a link to the thread (look about 10 posts down for my experiiment results: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=68714.0
No, I didn't make this a formal DBT test and I'm not about to go down that slippery slope. This is what I heard and experienced, so take it from there, as you wish.
Bob
Here's a link to the thread (look about 10 posts down for my experiiment results: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=68714.0
No, I didn't make this a formal DBT test and I'm not about to go down that slippery slope. This is what I heard and experienced, so take it from there, as you wish.
Bob
fredex said:
Fredex, I've said I agree with you, I'm very aware of the external influences also but these redenations doesn't always proof to be true.
It is very possible to learn to ignore these 'influences', especially once you realise that there are no point in trying to BS yourself. The problem I've seen is that most people doesn't even know what to listen for on a good system, that is the reason why they are influenced by price, brand names and other people's suggestions.
fredex said:
Maybe so, it is also possible to get punchy, well controlled bass together with clear and detailed HF, there are no reason to have one at the expense of the other.
fredex said:
I've done a few blind tests with cables, perhaps they were not strict enough to please everybody but they did confirm my sighted tests. I will organise a test based on SY's suggestions, it will obviously be time consuming to set it up and do measurements also, at the moment I have other things on my mind that are more important to me.
BobM said:I recently tested out some different RCA jacks, using the same base wire for each. Yes, I'm afraid that the connector makes a difference too.
Here's a link to the thread (look about 10 posts down for my experiiment results: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=68714.0
No, I didn't make this a formal DBT test and I'm not about to go down that slippery slope. This is what I heard and experienced, so take it from there, as you wish.
Bob
"The WBT's and Dayton's are very much of a similar nature (and are more in the Lexus category). There is a warmth and weightiness to them theat I don't hear on the Eichmann's. I can't swear to it, but the Dayton's may have a trifle more air and space int he midrange than the WBT's, but that could be me just trying to hear a difference rather than a real difference."
"Not a real comparison because it's different cable, but I put in my own homemade 89259/89248 twisted pair IC's that use the Parts Connexion WBT clones. These sound more like the WBT and Daytons than the Eichmann's, as you would expect. Perhaps a trifle less refined than the others, but again, I could be forcing the difference - it's so small."
"So I replaced the Eichmann's with the Cardas GRMO's and there was a big change, for the better. The Cardas plugs were definitely a bit bright sounding at first but warmed up quite a bit with burn in. Nice deep bass, but not quite as balanced overall as the WBT's and the Dayton's."
Iam selectively quoting from several of your posts there, which may be unfair.
"No, I didn't make this a formal DBT test and I'm not about to go down that slippery slope. This is what I heard and experienced, so take it from there, as you wish."
Indeed, such is your right. But, if you expect anyone else to draw any serious and uselful conclusions (ie scientific and repeatable) it was a compete waste of time.
But you seem to have enjoyed it, which is fine 🙂
BobM said:
In pro audio circles the words "quality RCA connector" is an oxymoron. I have to agree. No matter what you spend on the thing it's still an RCA. If you are building your own gear why use them at all?
If you bought two pieces of consumer electronics and they have RCA on the back then you are going to need an RCA/RCA cable but if you built the boxes you can choose the connector type.
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