I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

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You guys are having too much fun over here. 😀

Wow, the Peter Belt site is amazing!
I can freeze and thaw the batteries in my remote control and the sound will be better. Wow!! I'm headed down stairs to the freezer now.

Or as Mr. Belt says - (over and over)
.....see if you can listen to the same music with the same pleasure as before !!
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#2,127
salas said:
So I replied to him that I live less than 1km distance from Acropolis <snip> and regulate earth's fields positively within a considerable distance.
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Hmmm...... very interesting. Brilliant, actually.

Here's my story.
When I was up at AudioMagus they were selling the hell out of KingRex 12V power supplies because someone decided that they made the RR-77 Acoustic Revive work better.

The Acoustic Revive emits some very low frequency - supposed to be the natural resonant frequency of the earth or something. Put this in your listening room and everything will sound better - because you will feel better.

OK. The guys at AudioMagus had tried it - and a similar device - and found NO improvement - none. But the guys in Cleveland, Ohio were still buying them like crazy and loving them. They claimed they worked great.
Why?

I came up with this:
AudioMagus offices are west of Seattle out in the deep dark woods. Nothing but nature all around. Pretty clean enviroment, electromagnetically speaking. Not so, Cleveland! (can you imagine?) Having toured many cities and rural areas with wireless equipement, I can tell you it's a lot "noisier" in big cities. No surprise there.

Naturally the RR-77 didn't do any good in the deep woods of Washington state. No electrial pollution to fight. =)
Of course I just made this up off the top of my head - but it sounded logical.

And now that I live just a few feet from large electrical transmisson lines on 2 sides of me - I'm begining to think I might need one of those gadgets......
 
#2,128
SY said:
You need to take a picture of yourself and put it in the freezer. That will improve your sound, or so says Belt.

He also branched out into quack medicine, which really (IMO) transforms him from harmless crank to potentially harmful crank.
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I agree. Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I guess there has always been quacks but the rise in irrational thought and mistrust of science is alarming to me. Should we fight it or should we live and let live?
 
#2,131
fredex said:
Should we fight it or should we live and let live?
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Option 3: lead by example. That means no unproven or untested suppositions about the emotional and intellectual make-up of those with whom you disagree, no grandiose claims of end times lead by wire listeners, no claims an argument is 100% settled without bringing the evidence forward. Hard work really but it's the mantle you assume the moment the claim of representing Science is uttered. I can count on the nails of one finger the forum members who consistently and unfailingly live up to the true scientific standards and he's currently a polar bear!
 
#2,132
I doubt everything, but...

Returning to the own sound of the cables. Is for them so?
My opinion certainly.
Example due to the cables, I had to exchange a video card at one of the days in a computer because it broke down.
I put the new card, into it, all O.K . But it some strange waving shows on a screen. Would the new card be bad possibly? Or the monitor broke down? (You are a chin badly the roof aerial?) I look at the monitor cable what is inserted in the video card, qualitative product, may not be bad!

I look in behind the monitor then. and I see a bobbin cable. I ask it, what is this here? Answer: shorter cable was not got, only this five metre qualitative VGA cable. Well, I say it, we exchange it for something else. Dig out a trashy one one and a half metre VGA not shilded crapy cable, and see a miracle, the strange waving immediately came to an end! What is from this the moral?
Totally nothing! I know that a VGA cable working frequency is about 100 MHz while at an audio cable this only some times 10 KHz.

But after all, if somebody hears differences between audio cables, it possible, that he isn't snobbish, only simply he has better ears, than ours!

Gyuri
 
#2,134
Has someone tried to use a solid constantan core ?
How would it sound ?


A friend of mine used solid copper conductors arranged like this

..... - +
.+ ........ -
- ...........+
..+ .......-
.....- +

Don't know how many conductors he used maybe 14.

The cable had a remarkable different sound, when applied
e.g. between a CD an the preamp, than a standard audio cable.
 
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fredex said:


This would set off alarm bells in my head.
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I am not giving up trying to drown the noise of constantly
ringing alarm bells in my head.

We were swapping between that cable and a standard one
in the living room of a non HiFi freak, who told us that he does
not like the modified cable ... it sounded too "beasty" for him.

Which was comprehensible to me, because his setup sounded
somewhat "overbrillant" in the highs.

So with that setup, the higher resolution of detail was payed
with an even more unbalanced sound impression.

It was clearly audible, even for a person not interested in HiFi
stuff. He was not told whether the cable could alter the sound
or if so, into which direction.
 
#2,139
On the other hand that incident shows that different cables can indeed be picked up even by casual listeners without any interest or prejudice in cable audibility issues. A phenomenon that is not known to be repeatable in ABX tests. Somewhere, something is wrong here.
 
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