Well,I still hear it,I said it,but I do not insist as much as you'd like.
Surely evidence will not come from me,I'm not qualified for this.(That makes you happy? ).Sadly,it will not come from you either.In fact I don't even think your contribution in this thread was any better than mine.🙄 There is a difference however:I'm trying to learn something,I'm not pretending I know everything.
I noted that I use Bybee devices only on the outside of my loudspeaker cabinets, because I also have Bybee devices that were destined for installation inside my loudspeaker cabinets as well, but I backed out, as I did not want to open my WATT's up and potentially damage them while doing this. I had opened my WATT's up on a previous set that I had, 20 years ago, it was not impossible, but I also realized that I would have to wait for the 'break-in' of the devices, on hand before my WATT's would sound their best, and it would be just too long to wait. NOW, I could do it more easily, because the latest Bybee devices are cryoed in advance, and this vastly speeds up the break-in process. Sounds like Voodoo to you? Well, that's how it is in hi end audio design. Now, everyone else, get back to your HK based speakers and enjoy yourselves, knowing that all that is useful, has already been done by HK and its affiliates. ;-)
Panicos, do you ever measure your speakers?
Could you do the spectrum analysis of the content (the portion where you hear the difference) for the difference cables?
I have measured my previous speakers with a help from a friend EE.I am now at the point of painting and taking care of the room after some changes in the house.I would be interested in measuring the new ones as well when I have the chance.
The last cable change in my system was two years ago,the interconnect cables between my phono stage and amplifier.I have compared two interconnects.Manufacturer's info: cable1: 18mOhm/m, 70pf/m. Cable 2: 30mOhm/m,58pf/m.
I don't think the differences heard had to do with these specs,your opinion is welcome.
For the record,I have chosen the first one.
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I'm sure the search feature will work every bit as well for you. If not, please PayPal me $50 in advance. If it takes more than 15 minutes to get the cites, each additional 15 minutes are charged at $50 each. Frivolous argument is billed in 1 hour increments at $250 per hour.
I still use Dick's speakers, soon to be replaced by ?🙂. Have you tried the polka dot thing on the drivers, looks right up your alley.
Since your competitors aren't bothering to take cheap shots at you, I don't understand why you feel the need to take cheap shots at them.
Hi Frank, i'd say that it'd be impossible 🙂
I always think about it like this. When we are children we are taught about all sorts of things. Take colours for instance 😀 We can all agree that red is red (unless we are colour blind) & blue is blue, green is green etc...
However there is absolutely no way we can prove we are seeing the same thing at all. What i know to be red might look totally different to someone else, but they were told that that colour is called "red" as a child so they'll call it red to.
Doesn't mean that they see anything like what i see, they just know the name of that colour 😀
Over & out...
Mark.
I'm surprised that this thread hasn't finally been closed due to lack of civility. AJinFLA's recent appearance naturally precludes civility.
John
John
Hi,
The mud appears to be piling up on one side of the fence mostly....😀
We can therefore safely conclude that there was a pig pile of mud on the other side to begin with.🙂
Anyways, there are those trying to advance science and then there are others waiting for science to advance them.
Cheers, 😉
The mud appears to be piling up on one side of the fence mostly....😀
We can therefore safely conclude that there was a pig pile of mud on the other side to begin with.🙂
Anyways, there are those trying to advance science and then there are others waiting for science to advance them.
Cheers, 😉
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Its funny
Listening is a subjective thing/experience
If you remove the subjective part, whats left then 😀
Hey, why take this so serious
Whats there to say, some like blondes, some like them dark
Lighten up guys
A stupid cable is hardly worth getting angry about
Other than if its broken
Listening is a subjective thing/experience
If you remove the subjective part, whats left then 😀
Hey, why take this so serious
Whats there to say, some like blondes, some like them dark
Lighten up guys
A stupid cable is hardly worth getting angry about
Other than if its broken
Hi,
You are reading things that just aren't there.
The reply is not ad rem and, if anything, I'd like to see as rigid a test as the next man.
Cheers, 😉
You are reading things that just aren't there.
The reply is not ad rem and, if anything, I'd like to see as rigid a test as the next man.
Cheers, 😉
OK Gents, let's try to keep this thread open for just a few more days. The middle of the month is coming and thus the grand DBT. All I want is to know the results.
Placebo effect? Wishful thinking? Bias from knowing the colour/price/brand name of the cable?
DBTs challenge the notion that the "golden ear" listener is infallible. Perhaps thats why some audiophiles are so against them (but thats just a guess).
People make errors. The DBT is designed to remove all the things that may get in the way of really knowing whether there is a difference between A and B that can be heard, without the influence of factors that bias the result.
They're a pain to setup, but the upside is that we get increased knowledge as the result.
Hi,
Interesting thought. So those DBT's are all about testing ears, not cables then?
Audiophiles aren't machines, they're human.
Cheers, 😉
Interesting thought. So those DBT's are all about testing ears, not cables then?
Audiophiles aren't machines, they're human.
Cheers, 😉
Quite right.
Which is why their subjective perceptions aren't necessarily an unerring reflection of physical reality.
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No, audio DBTs are not about testing people's hearing (there are standard audiometry tests for that).
They are designed to remove bias that may get in the way of people hearing a difference, if one exists.
That is, determining whether a person hears a difference between two different cables that is better than just chance guessing.
Cheers and wishes😉
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