Audiolab CDQ8200 CD/DAC/Pre Amp
This is, unfortunately not the Designer's best work from his ex.Chinese Bosses ...IIRC it was rushed to Production with a few flaws :-(
I would class AUDIOLAB as (upper) Mid-Fi and there are better DACs out there to show off amps like these with low distortion
This is, unfortunately not the Designer's best work from his ex.Chinese Bosses ...IIRC it was rushed to Production with a few flaws :-(
I would class AUDIOLAB as (upper) Mid-Fi and there are better DACs out there to show off amps like these with low distortion
my friend with the F1 Speakers had this AUDIOLAB 8200CD and pitted against a 15 year old Tag AV192R; the 8200 had muted detail ...Tag McLaren is great for Cinema but average for Music nowadays, in my opinion (to put it in context)
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I am sure there are better DACs out there but my question is which Hypex NC.version would match best with the Audio lab.
I bought the DAC and it sounds excellent connected straight to the unbuffered inputs of the NC500. Only problem is not enough gain and current. It sounds phenomenal together with my buffers, but I have no volume control that way. Unless I use digital on the media player app. But for DSD, only HQplayer can do volume control, and it involves passing the signal through an extra layer of filtering, which degrades the sound. So I'm thinking analog volume control might be best.
The preamp board has current capabilities close to my buffers, so should drive them nicely. I have a preamp board on its way. I'll be trying it soon. I'll be comparing it with my buffers.
hypex ncore
What's the output capabilities of your audio lab? The best buffer for the NC500 is no buffer. Can't get anymore transparent than that. The catch is you need a beefy preamp.
What's the output capabilities of your audio lab? The best buffer for the NC500 is no buffer. Can't get anymore transparent than that. The catch is you need a beefy preamp.
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I think its 4.0 volts. My current power amp has a sensitivity of 1.5 volts and it goes loud when my volume control is set at -30db. The volume control goes from -80 to +3db
hypex ncore
For example my buffers can sink and source up to 200ma with still only 0.0005 THD, and are capable up to 26 DBa gain. The LM4562 used on the stock buffer board, craps out at 60ma.
It takes 13.46v to drive the amps buffer less to full output. The stock buffer board is set for 14.6 db of gain if it's not bypassed. Sounds like you would need to go through the buffer with your preamp.
For example my buffers can sink and source up to 200ma with still only 0.0005 THD, and are capable up to 26 DBa gain. The LM4562 used on the stock buffer board, craps out at 60ma.
It takes 13.46v to drive the amps buffer less to full output. The stock buffer board is set for 14.6 db of gain if it's not bypassed. Sounds like you would need to go through the buffer with your preamp.
So what is the voltage required on the LM4562 buffer board to drive it to full volume
hypex ncore
You would have no problem with the LM4562 buffer. Together with the buffer, my other DAC with 4.6v output drove the amps louder than they ever needed to go.
The only problem with that is your going through the LM4562 based buffer. Not near as transparent as a straight copper PCB trace. 🙂
You would have no problem with the LM4562 buffer. Together with the buffer, my other DAC with 4.6v output drove the amps louder than they ever needed to go.
The only problem with that is your going through the LM4562 based buffer. Not near as transparent as a straight copper PCB trace. 🙂
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Thanks but still not sure if I should go for NC400 or NC500 irrespective of cost.
hypex ncore
If you must use that preamp, it would be personal taste that would determine what's better. The NC400 does have a better buffer. If you don't like the sound, it's your DAC, and preamps fault with the NC400.
But keep in mind, with the NC500, you can always bypass the buffer down the road if you decide to get a beefier pre.
If you must use that preamp, it would be personal taste that would determine what's better. The NC400 does have a better buffer. If you don't like the sound, it's your DAC, and preamps fault with the NC400.
But keep in mind, with the NC500, you can always bypass the buffer down the road if you decide to get a beefier pre.
Remember that it is not just a question of voltage, but also current / impedance.
How would you describe the sound of NC400 vs NC500 with standard onboard buffers ie what are the pros and cons.
The NC400's have no sound signature of their own. They sound exactly like the source, only amplified. The LM4562's maybe slightly warmer. But definitely some coloration. It's been a while now since I've heard the stock buffer stage.
With the input buffer modded with the Burson discrete opamp, sound was definitely warmer and nicer. Much better than the LM4562 IMO.
The above BURpSON comment is what I wanted to hear Sir ;-)
Suspect it might be the Resistors they use which could warm the sonics a bit
Suspect it might be the Resistors they use which could warm the sonics a bit
And what electrical parameter would the resistors affect that would cause the warming of the sound?
From my experience, SMD vs THT that I've tried, they warm the sound a bit...but I couldn't tell you why
Reviews of BURSON seem to all have in common an extra warmth factor
I like this, even if it's adding a flavour 🙂
Reviews of BURSON seem to all have in common an extra warmth factor
I like this, even if it's adding a flavour 🙂
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There are a lot of possible reasons for that. Resistors is pretty far down on my list.
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