Hi Folks,
while I am trying to get to the bottom of a slight malfunction that my Flamma FS06 amp modeler pedal is displaying (in another thread), I began to wonder if in my noob naivete I even use such a pedal correctly? I know that whatever sounds good is correct, and Flamma still gives me the best tone so far, I feel like I am not using its full potential judging by some glowing reviews I saw.
It is supposed to model a few popular amp models, both clean and dirtly channels for each, and it has a built-in cab sim. So I assumed I just plug the guitar into its input, plug its output into the mixer, and that's it. And it works reasonably ok but the sound still sounds kinda thin no matter what I do. Even with distorted channels, and some of these models are really distorted, I can get a lot of noise but nothing quite like punchy power chords or soaring gilmoury tone.
It may very well be my other components, which are nothing fancy.
But I was thinking that, if this is really an amp simulator, shouldn't I have something like a tube screamer before it? What is a standard way to use a pedal like this?
Thanks!
while I am trying to get to the bottom of a slight malfunction that my Flamma FS06 amp modeler pedal is displaying (in another thread), I began to wonder if in my noob naivete I even use such a pedal correctly? I know that whatever sounds good is correct, and Flamma still gives me the best tone so far, I feel like I am not using its full potential judging by some glowing reviews I saw.
It is supposed to model a few popular amp models, both clean and dirtly channels for each, and it has a built-in cab sim. So I assumed I just plug the guitar into its input, plug its output into the mixer, and that's it. And it works reasonably ok but the sound still sounds kinda thin no matter what I do. Even with distorted channels, and some of these models are really distorted, I can get a lot of noise but nothing quite like punchy power chords or soaring gilmoury tone.
It may very well be my other components, which are nothing fancy.
But I was thinking that, if this is really an amp simulator, shouldn't I have something like a tube screamer before it? What is a standard way to use a pedal like this?
Thanks!
I am not sure what you have available to augment the preamp, but a bit of "ambient" room reverb or short delay after the preamp cab sim could help give it a bigger sound stage to both open up and thicken the sound. Like getting an actual cab mic'd up for recording, sometimes they mic one close to the speaker, and have a second mic picking up the cabinet sound in the recording space, they can get a more realistic mix by blending the direct and ambient sounds.
I have a version of both reverb and delay, I'll give it a try!
Does it make sense to do something before the preamp?
Does it make sense to do something before the preamp?
Here are the pedals that I have, plus some effects in the mixing deck.
Now, as I understood from googling, tube screamer boosts midrange. If I take one of the preamps on the multi effect pedals and put it in front of flamma, reduce bass and treble all the way and turn the middle all the way up, would it resemble what a tube screamer does?
Now, as I understood from googling, tube screamer boosts midrange. If I take one of the preamps on the multi effect pedals and put it in front of flamma, reduce bass and treble all the way and turn the middle all the way up, would it resemble what a tube screamer does?
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@shanx , you advice worked very well, thanks! Adding a little bit of reverb and delay from the multieffects pedal I have made the tone a lot prettier!
I also tried to add some midrange boost from another preamp, and it also helped I think. Combined, the tone I'm getting is by far much better than anything I was able to concoct until today.
I also tried to add some midrange boost from another preamp, and it also helped I think. Combined, the tone I'm getting is by far much better than anything I was able to concoct until today.
@Crocobar , glad I could be of help! When I was doing recording in studio, we used to record the guitar without delay/reverb for the basic track, and add it in later to match the ambient room sound of the rest of the instruments in the mix. Adding the ambient delay/reverb takes the focus away from the guitar sound emanating from the playback system's speakers and opens it up to a more realistic soundstage IMHO. I think the Flamma is a able to handle pedals (like tubescreamer) in front pretty well, judging from demo videos. Cheers!