Home theater subwoofers with UM15-22 drivers and Crown K2 amp

Awesome build! And great work on the port! Did you use any lining on the internal walls? What was the final volume, port length and area?

I did not put any lining, just a bit of stuffing. I have to lookup the data if you want exact measuremnets but from memory it should by close to 9 cu.ft. The port is 4 in high and 24 in wide, a about 66 in long! Tuned frequency around 19 Hz.

I just tried it with the intro to Blade Runner 2049...geeeezzzz! 😱
 
I did not put any lining, just a bit of stuffing. I have to lookup the data if you want exact measuremnets but from memory it should by close to 9 cu.ft. The port is 4 in high and 24 in wide, a about 66 in long! Tuned frequency around 19 Hz.

I just tried it with the intro to Blade Runner 2049...geeeezzzz! 😱


I think that's the largest port I've ever seen, equivalent to 3 x 6inch round ports, or a single 11 inch round port - extremely impressive! Think you'll have definitely got the velocity down to acceptable with that port! Given your port length of 1.6 meters, you're going to get a port resonance around 100Hz, which will probably show in your measurements. I had one around 130Hz with my 1.3meter port length - Although above the passband of my sub (LPF at 60Hz), I apply mild attenuation using dsp to knock out the hump.
 
I think that's the largest port I've ever seen, equivalent to 3 x 6inch round ports, or a single 11 inch round port - extremely impressive! Think you'll have definitely got the velocity down to acceptable with that port! Given your port length of 1.6 meters, you're going to get a port resonance around 100Hz, which will probably show in your measurements. I had one around 130Hz with my 1.3meter port length - Although above the passband of my sub (LPF at 60Hz), I apply mild attenuation using dsp to knock out the hump.

Originally, I did not plan to make it that wide in order to keep the length down a bit, but for fabrication consideration, it was much easyier to make it the full width of the box so i designed the port like this... we'll see the measurement soon enough!
 
Originally, I did not plan to make it that wide in order to keep the length down a bit, but for fabrication consideration, it was much easyier to make it the full width of the box so i designed the port like this... we'll see the measurement soon enough!

Caused a 10dB spike at my listening position, on a measurement with no LPF / PEQ, but I dont notice issues when listening with the LPF configured, even without the PEQ attunation.

If you're interested, details on my thread - Project – 2 x Peerless XLS 10” 20Hz tuned slot port subwoofer

Looking forward to seeing your measurements. Wish I had your skills to make ports like yours!
 
Caused a 10dB spike at my listening position, on a measurement with no LPF / PEQ, but I dont notice issues when listening with the LPF configured, even without the PEQ attunation.

If you're interested, details on my thread - Project – 2 x Peerless XLS 10” 20Hz tuned slot port subwoofer

Looking forward to seeing your measurements. Wish I had your skills to make ports like yours!

It's really not that difficult, I happen to have a fab lab not too far away with a CNC machine, I basically just did the drawings and put it in the CNC and all the parts came out! LIKE MAGIC! LOL. I can send some 2D drawings and machine cut path it it can help. The original 3D drawing have been done with Sketchup, but there is better tools out there, this one happens to be free!
 
Here are some room simulation and actual measurements! Seems to fit with a little shift considering that the room as a bit of acoustic treatment and couches.
 

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Here are some room simulation and actual measurements! Seems to fit with a little shift considering that the room as a bit of acoustic treatment and couches.

Nice ! Extension into the low teens !

You using a UMIK ? Although they're calibrated down to 10Hz, mine seems to go out from 12Hz downwards, not sure if this inaccurancy of the mic, or low frequency transmission through mic stand / mic itself as opposed to actual acoustic sound pressure measurement.
 
Nice ! Extension into the low teens !

You using a UMIK ? Although they're calibrated down to 10Hz, mine seems to go out from 12Hz downwards, not sure if this inaccurancy of the mic, or low frequency transmission through mic stand / mic itself as opposed to actual acoustic sound pressure measurement.

I'm using the ECM8000 from Berhinger, REW and the Calibration file with a flat system curve calibrated in loopback. I usually place the mic ona small tripod in the headrest of the couch. I'm assuming it is well isolated from the floor but it is possible that there is some resonance with the headrest. I could roun some tests with different materials for isolation. I think my biggest problem is my room, I should turn everything 90 deg. but the door would be behind the seats and they barely fit the width so no space to pass en the sides... 😡
 
Hi folks,

I have been working in my home theater to replace the Martin Logan Dynamo 1000 sub with diy ones. After a bit of reasearch, I settled onthe Dayton Ultimax UM15-22 which are 15 inch dual voice coil 800W drivers. I have a couple of friends that have pro power amps and I decided to go with a Crown K2 because it has no fan which is great for HT use.

I found a K2 amp in a pawn shop for a good price, but it needed a bit of love so i stripped the electronics and send it for a powder coat. I was not able to take of the face overlay sticker withouth damaging them so I redid the layout and laser engraved some durablack sheets to replace the stickers. After seeing that my friend wanted to do the same so we did the same treatment to his but wil silver stickers. See pictures attached!

Afterwards I ran some simulations with winISD to compare the Sealed vs Ported enclosure. 9cu ft ported tune at 19Hz vs 4.5 cu ft sealed enclosure. It obviously the sealed showed a more promessing response... but what the heck... let's build them both and see how they compare in the real world!

So i did just that and was surprised to see how the results are close to the simulations! The ported enclosure (9 cu ft), although twice the size of the sealed (4.5 cu ft) one, won the contest hands down. The bump arount 45Hz is my room mode that I haven't treated yet...I just need to build a second one and finish them up.

So there it is, hope you enjoy!
Hi Tintin1977, just found your post about the Crown K2 restoration. I am just restoring one K2 which I found recently with a case very badly used/worn, and fully redoing the powder coating job and I have also been facing the impossible way to remove the two faceplate overlay stickers. Tried several ways: impossible to remove without destroying the vinyl sticker.

I am just curious if you would still have saved the graphic illustrated layouts or if they would be a way to maybe get and buy some replicas from you.

I have done graphic editing with adobe Illustrator at home for silk screen printing layouts for my R2R's but actually not getting time to do it again right now.

*I must say the replicas you made are just top notch craftsmanship, congratulations!
Thank you for your reply.


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Hi folks,

I have been working in my home theater to replace the Martin Logan Dynamo 1000 sub with diy ones. After a bit of reasearch, I settled onthe Dayton Ultimax UM15-22 which are 15 inch dual voice coil 800W drivers. I have a couple of friends that have pro power amps and I decided to go with a Crown K2 because it has no fan which is great for HT use.

I found a K2 amp in a pawn shop for a good price, but it needed a bit of love so i stripped the electronics and send it for a powder coat. I was not able to take of the face overlay sticker withouth damaging them so I redid the layout and laser engraved some durablack sheets to replace the stickers. After seeing that my friend wanted to do the same so we did the same treatment to his but wil silver stickers. See pictures attached!

Afterwards I ran some simulations with winISD to compare the Sealed vs Ported enclosure. 9cu ft ported tune at 19Hz vs 4.5 cu ft sealed enclosure. It obviously the sealed showed a more promessing response... but what the heck... let's build them both and see how they compare in the real world!

So i did just that and was surprised to see how the results are close to the simulations! The ported enclosure (9 cu ft), although twice the size of the sealed (4.5 cu ft) one, won the contest hands down. The bump arount 45Hz is my room mode that I haven't treated yet...I just need to build a second one and finish them up.

So there it is, hope you enjoy!


Hi folks,

I have been working in my home theater to replace the Martin Logan Dynamo 1000 sub with diy ones. After a bit of reasearch, I settled onthe Dayton Ultimax UM15-22 which are 15 inch dual voice coil 800W drivers. I have a couple of friends that have pro power amps and I decided to go with a Crown K2 because it has no fan which is great for HT use.

I found a K2 amp in a pawn shop for a good price, but it needed a bit of love so i stripped the electronics and send it for a powder coat. I was not able to take of the face overlay sticker withouth damaging them so I redid the layout and laser engraved some durablack sheets to replace the stickers. After seeing that my friend wanted to do the same so we did the same treatment to his but wil silver stickers. See pictures attached

Afterwards I ran some simulations with winISD to compare the Sealed vs Ported enclosure. 9cu ft ported tune at 19Hz vs 4.5 cu ft sealed enclosure. It obviously the sealed showed a more promessing response... but what the heck... let's build them both and see how they compare in the real world!

So i did just that and was surprised to see how the results are close to the simulations! The ported enclosure (9 cu ft), although twice the size of the sealed (4.5 cu ft) one, won the contest hands down. The bump arount 45Hz is my room mode that I haven't treated yet...I just need to build a second one and finish them up.

So there it is, hope you enjoy!