Historical recordings.

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Bonjour Delphaure :)

Merci pour ta contribution à la conversation.
Simoneau, je l'ai écouté il y à bien des annés. J' ai oublié l' opéra en question mais il m'a plu, je me souviens... je vais l' écouter ce soir ;)
Seulement US$ 20 pour écouter toute la collection Naxos pour un an! Je trouve que c'est un cadeau.
Je dois commenter que je nái aucun intérêt économique à Naxos :clown:


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Thanks for your contribution to the conversation. I remember Simoneau. I heard him years ago but I forgot the opera in which he sung. I liked him, I recall...I will listen to him this afternoon.
Only US$20 to listen to the whole Naxos collection for a whole year! I think this is a gift!
Disclaim: I have not econmical interest in Naxos :clown:

Please, take a look to these fine videos and tracks of Joseph Schmidt, the giant-little tenor!

http://es.youtube.com/results?search_query=joseph+schmidt

Enjoy!
M
 
Hi all historic recordings fans :)

At last! Almost three months after buying them they finally arrived from la belle France (postal service problem :mad: )

They can be seen here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/maxlorenz24/Operas

My first Boris Godunov: splendid!
Jan Peerce and Leonard Warren in Rigolletto.
Galiano Massini and Maria Caniglia in La Forza...
And finally, Furtwangler's Tristan.
The truth is that all operas sound excellent. Both engineers at Naxos are my heroes. :D

OT: not historical but great bargains; Brilliant Classics are selling complete works of many Artists at ridiculous low prices!
I just bought "The Complete Works of J.S Bach", that is 155 CDs for US$120 (if I recall well).
They do have the Russian Masters Archives (that could be considered historical), 100 CDs for EU80, at abeillemusique.com

I hope it helps,
M
 
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Hi maxlorenz and all

Ref. Brilliant's Historic Russian Archives, I have bought "Emil Gilels plays Beethoven", 6CDs with recordings between 1961 and 1984.
Quality of transfer is good.
On some of them there is "presence" added (it is evident during the audience rehearsals), shifting the tone balance a bit. I would prefer them without it.
My next choise from Russian Archives will be Rostropovich 10 CDs.

Regards
George
 
Hi George,
I like very much Russian artists and music. When funds allow (year of The Rat) I will buy the complete collection:

http://www.abeillemusique.com/produit.php?cle=28367

...because of the big economy (EU 1 per CD). Some days it is even on Sale!

Note that there are 20CDs from Oistrakh, 10CDs from Kremer...etc
Even 7CDs avec Daniel Shafran (unknown to me) about whom the site says he is as good, if not better than, Rostropovich...

I salute you friendly,
M
(because I don't know any Greek greeting :D )
 
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Hi Max and all
I wish you during the year of The Rat to be able to listen to all your favorite Russian artists.

I am also found of them.

20-30 years ago, there was a record shop here in Athens, that was selling russian classic records exclusivelly. Well, most of the artists, were unknown, and the shop owner was smilling with a melancholic smile, adding that there couldn't be otherwise.
The recordings were - suprisingly - top notch.
As for Daniel Shafran, it seems that he was very good

Regards
George
 
Hi guys,
Finally, I received the 100CD box "Legendary Russian Soloists" days ago. PLEASE, don't miss this one! For me it was 88EU (plus shipment :( )

http://picasaweb.google.com/maxlorenz24/Operas/photo#5190398018560148322

All the pieces are "live recordings", maybe some for TV, from around 1947 to around 1984. Maybe that's why the "presence" is there...I like it!
I have only listened to a few of them. Sound is amazingly good (through Ubuntu (thanks Soundcheck) ->USB-> DI16 Ultimate NOS DAC (thanks -ecdesigns-)).

Daniel Shafran is a great musician! He won an Amati Cello from 1630 on competition as a teenager and played with it all his life. The cello is said to be smaller than average, so the sound is brighter-warmer, as a super-viola. :D

I heard him so far on some of Bach's cello solo sonatas and on a Shostakovich's sonata for cello and piano. His Bach is unique.

As I said, Oistrakh has 20CDS: 10 from concertos-orchestral music and 10 for chamber music. The two Shostakovich's violin concertos are worth all the pains...

Ten Kogan's also, from which the Tchaikovsky Violin concerto is superb, if a bit constricted, and the Katchaturian is outstanding.

Many Kremer's, full of life recordings :) . I liked very much his Prokofiev's violin and piano sonata.

Other big surprise is Viktor Tretiakov. His violin playing is refined, unpolluted and full of good taste.

About the piano players, I'll skip them for now...

This is truly a musical treasure. Don't say I didn't warn you!

Cheers,
M
 
maxlorenz said:
About the piano players, I'll skip them for now...

This is truly a musical treasure. Don't say I didn't warn you!

Hi Maxlorenz

My son Yuri (16, website: Yuri Bakker) has just been accepted at Juilliard college. (he is now in precollege)

This is a nice present for him (and for me and my wife(= violonist)

Tell me asap about the piano players. (Richter etc ??)

Very best regards,

Onno
 
But, I would recommend my fellow countryman Claudio Arrau, for the depth of the spiritual/moral insight and the weight of his playing...:cool:
For me he is the best.


Yepperdeyep. !!

Arthur Grumiaux + Claudio Arrau
Beethoven sonatas (Philips)
This is the absolute top (1964 etc !!!!!)
In playing and in recording.

It is my reference !!!

Do you have it ?

If not send me a PE with your exact addres !!

Regards

Onno
 
Please, listen to the only (for now) video on youtube from my singing teacher, Mrs Nora López, from 1961, at her beginnings in Italy, aged 33 (more or less), with the RAI orchestra. The sound is not very good.
Some Italian specialists called her "the last verdian soprano". Though she had a natural lyric voice (she won an opera competition practically without studying; Ramon Vinay was at the jury at the "Teatro Municipal" in Santiago) she later took classes with Maria Caniglia, Gina Cigna and the incomparable Tulio Serafin. I think it was Maria Caniglia who said to her: "OMG, you sing like one of Us "

She is now at her 80's and full of life and power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8wxkpl5U4Y

She told me recently that she owns many original tape recordings from the RAI, Simon Bocanegra, Trovador, Macbeth, Cavalleria, her Norma was fantastic...etc if I recall well...and she would like to produce them to CD...for posterity and for some dirty dollars :D
I'm thinking about buying a tape player ;)

I have to say that she is a tremendous opera teacher. :cool:
I don't think they have better at Julliards nor anywhere...otherwise the quality of singing should be better.

Hope U like it.
M
 
maxlorenz said:
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She told me recently that she owns many original tape recordings from the RAI, Simon Bocanegra, Trovador, Macbeth, Cavalleria, her Norma was fantastic...etc if I recall well...and she would like to produce them to CD...for posterity and for some dirty dollars :D
I'm thinking about buying a tape player ;)

Hope U like it.
M [/B]



I will do it if you do not do it !!

I have a professional Studer tape machine
(and a professional dolby SR and A connected to it)
There is nothing but analog !!

But I have a very nice homebuild not to beat AD converter.

grtz

Onno
 
I have a professional Studer tape machine
(and a professional dolby SR and A connected to it)
There is nothing but analog !!

Wow!
Do you have also a record company?? :D
I could send you the tapes and do business together :D :clown:

The punch and "stamina" of her voice can be heard slightly on that bad recording. Having sung with her in classes I can say that her voice was like a warm substance of incredible power...

More recognizable is the "Verdian" intense style...now in way of extinction...

Best regards,
M
 
Hi Onno,

My posts are from well remastered CDs. Some with analog remastering, some with digital remastering/noise shaping/reconstruction...

I am no expert on analog reproduction but if you say so you are probably right...I do not know...
The archive is based on The Netherlands, it appears...they should have good equipment, I thought. They also post on Youtube, as europarchive, if I remember correctly, so it would be easy to ask them.
There are some recordings that sound very good to me, like Tchaikovsky-s fourth symphonie with Kubellik. Amazing dynamic contrasts.

Cheers,
M
 
Thanks dear Onno.

Talking about old records transcripted to digital format in an home environment, which retain most of the qualities that make analog sound natural...I suspect that audio engineers, or better, music producers, are the culprits of the <digital sound> too much filtering and cleaning and who knows what else (or maybe the pressing process)...I do not intend to hurt anybody-s feelings but sometimes the less the intervention the better the sound...it is like <raw, unfiltered beer> :D it is so tasty, but you cannot see through it ;)
I do not know if I explain myself clearly...

Cheers,
M

PS> maybe I shall mention that I am listening through ecdesigns last DAC iteration, the D1M, using the humble TDA1543 :D (I still have like 40 of these DAC chips)
 
Hi all , My hand is getting tired writing down all these great recording's I wish someone would make a list I could print out to take with me when i go record hunting . I dont know some of these artist but i will be shure to look for them in the future . Thanks,Matt
 
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