A shot in the dark. As D1 and D2 are optional protection diodes, what happens if you remove them.
NealG said:This listening experience is at total odds to what I hear when using a regulated PSU. I don't understand it.
I must warn that if badly implemented the buffer can only get things worse.
Layout is very important.
Sorry, off-topic:
Neal, do you have any way of contacting Leo before lunch time?
Tell him to read his mail.

Thanks.

Nuuk, you should have independent sets of diodes for each pair of regs.
But why Carlos? 😕
I can see that there should be a set of diodes for the positive regulator and one for the negative regulators. But why can't you run two postive regulators off one set of diodes and two negative regulators off the other set?
Try just one pair of regs each time connected to the diodes and amp.
I'm confused now, give me some time.😕
Maby Pedja has ideas...😕
I'm confused now, give me some time.😕
Maby Pedja has ideas...😕
Hi,Nuuk said:I can see that there should be a set of diodes for the positive regulator and one for the negative regulators. But why can't you run two postive regulators off one set of diodes and two negative regulators off the other set? [/B]
this is possible, but be sure that set of diodes connected to +V reg on one amp is also connected on +V reg on second.
Regards
Milan
carlosfm said:Nuuk, let's see if we find out what's happening with your regs...
You have 8 diodes (2 bridges) and 2 pairs of regs, right?
That is, the two pairs of regs share the same diodes, right?
Now look at the schematic.
You join the output of one reg with the ground of the other one to make the ground, right?
What happens if on the other board you pick the other two lines to do this?![]()
Nuuk, read this post again, as I have this feeling...
A big prize to Carlos and Milan!
I double checked my wiring and I had connected the postive reg on one module with the negative reg on the other 😱 😱 😱
I now realize how I did this. Originally I planned to make a symetrical layout but then found that I got shorter wiring for the regs and buffers if I had them the same way round for each channel. When I re-routed the wires for the regulator modules, one set was a little short and I changed them over to fit
So the modules are OK and no wonder I couldn't find anything wrong with them. When I replaced the blown cap(s) and tested the module out of the amp, I only had that module connected.
I hope that my experience will serve to prevent others using two regulator modules with one transformer/rectifier unit making the same mistake.
Thanks again for everybody's help!
I now have both modules putting out the correct voltages so time to connect up the attenuator and buffers! I don't doubt all this will be worthwhile! 😉
PS I am now thinking that it may be a good idea to use orange and grey insulation for the PSU wiring on a second channel instead of red and black. This should prevent similar mistakes.
I double checked my wiring and I had connected the postive reg on one module with the negative reg on the other 😱 😱 😱
I now realize how I did this. Originally I planned to make a symetrical layout but then found that I got shorter wiring for the regs and buffers if I had them the same way round for each channel. When I re-routed the wires for the regulator modules, one set was a little short and I changed them over to fit
So the modules are OK and no wonder I couldn't find anything wrong with them. When I replaced the blown cap(s) and tested the module out of the amp, I only had that module connected.
I hope that my experience will serve to prevent others using two regulator modules with one transformer/rectifier unit making the same mistake.
Thanks again for everybody's help!

I now have both modules putting out the correct voltages so time to connect up the attenuator and buffers! I don't doubt all this will be worthwhile! 😉
PS I am now thinking that it may be a good idea to use orange and grey insulation for the PSU wiring on a second channel instead of red and black. This should prevent similar mistakes.

Nuuk, what resistor values do you have on the regs?
120 UAR and 2K4 LAR. (= 26 volts output)
Nuuk said:I double checked my wiring and I had connected the postive reg on one module with the negative reg on the other 😱 😱 😱
🙂
Also, Carlos has right:
It's possible that - regs are little "confused" with this parallel IN-OUT pins connection.
Regards
Milan
Nuuk said:120 UAR and 2K4 LAR. (= 26 volts output)
If you have the courage to dismantle that again😀 , change 120 for 100 and 2.4k for 2.2k.
You'll get around 28.5v, better not to drop too much voltage as you have now.
While listening today in my house, I noticed that the sound improved since I tried it last time and mids were indeed somewhat softer and maybe even more pleasing than my Patek, but bass was definitely worse and resolution was lacking.
Seems strange to me, but I had the same experience with bass when I tried this a few months ago. Im quite motivated to try this layout again and use the buffer. I suspect I was imagining the lack of bass as logic would dicate bass should be better as do many people here

If you have the courage to dismantle that again , change 120 for 100 and 2.4k for 2.2k.
Well, if I can get away from this thread 😉 I am tempted to just go with what I have and not tempt fate with any more changes at present. Although I am dropping more voltage than I would like to, as Pedja pointed out, with two sets of regulators to share the load, this shouldn't be mucj of a problem.
And now I MUST return to the soldering iron!

Nuuk said:Here's an Excel file to calulate output voltages from adjustable regulators. 😉

Thanks for stopping me using Windows' best tool: the Calculator.

PS: Don't forget Paint and Notepad!😀
--------------------------------------------------------------------Nuuk said:Yes Carlos - go ahead and try these LT1083 regs! 😉
At over 11 UKP each, I will want to hear your opinion before spending my own money 😀
This is an outrageous price. The 1083s are not that good anyway, rather noisy.
There are much better new LT regs. Lokk at their site and you can alson order. Beware of the $25 postage though.
Hi FMAK,
On the Linear site I only see the LT158X series that look promising in the table. But these are all 7 volt max input devices.
Please indicate which parts you have found to be good.
Rick
On the Linear site I only see the LT158X series that look promising in the table. But these are all 7 volt max input devices.
Please indicate which parts you have found to be good.
Rick
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