But since our cohort is on a budget it is very likely he will be picking up the cream of the crop. Most likely the speakers that people swap out for something a little more desirable.
thanks!, some guy was also selling a peerless alnico woofer, it was dirt cheap, $20 usd, cool speaker but out of my specs
thanks for all the replies guys, so in conclusion those extra db are not really worth it, so i guess with any speaker on my budget will be fine, also i found another eminence gb128 on sale
i've heard that is quite an infamous speaker, and i think there are better choices around it would be my last.. if you pick it up tell me if it does well
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FWIW, I had Eminence's "Cannabis Rex" in a Karlson 12 and thought that pretty good with guitar. It also sounded good on vocals even without tweeter augmentation - too band Eminence doesn't try a full ranger version built around that cone.
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Well this is embarrassing. I do have a pair of Seventy 80's. In a Randall RG200. I picked up the amp for $50 as it was not working properly, the overdrive was flaky. I have not had a change to fix it yet so I don't know how they sound overdriven. Clean I am missing crispness to the top end. Mind you I only have a few Peavey Rapters and the humbucker in the bridge position is all mids. I need to finish building my Tele.
The amp is loud as heck, to be expected. I dropped the lows and the mids a little on the tone controls to try to make up for the missing bits. On the amp 9, 10, 2 (o'clock) and it is not bad as in horrible, but it does not jump out at you. I do have 60 year old ears though. They seem like a loudish clean speaker, no added distortion to add 'presence'. Not a Celestion bite. If I was a kid with little money they could do. I am guessing if I took some dope off the surround it might be more to my liking. But you would probably loose out on the power rating. But 80W into a speaker is not my idea of fun any more. Give me a lightweight alnico instead. I guess I could live with them if I had nothing better.
Speaking of, how is the market for 70's home organs in your vicinity? I have been picking up Yamaha organs for $20 to free and they have some decent sounding speakers, as long as you do not get the one that looks like a giant ear. JA3052 (60W), 3051, 3063, I have not come across a 12" Yamaha that I did not like. Think they might have used the 3052 in a guitar amp also. I have no reason to pick up a regular guitar speaker since I have these. I do have the Special Design Fender and a ET65 Warehouse Guitar Speaker yet, some old Jensens, a whole whack of tube era hifi speakers. I do like the Yamaha's though.
I use a Fane 12-250TC speaker for my guitar speaker.
Its a full range speaker and about 100db sensitivity.
About £70 in UK.
Its a full range speaker and about 100db sensitivity.
About £70 in UK.
Actually went back and listened to the Shane vid, yeah I kind of agree with the clean tones for the Seventy 80.
i've seen some 70s stuff, i was almost buying a solid state home organ for cheap in a garage sale last year, it was in poor contidition so it could have been a nice goldmine hehe, but at the end i regretted because i had no room and wasn't really worth it, i guess it had a 10" speaker
i see stuff come around sometimes, but here is a bit difficult because people tend to put stupid prices on this kind of stuff(organs, tube radios, old tv's) even when they are on very poor condition, stuff that should be free like a rat-pissed broken radio chassis, bad tubes, cheap ugly solid state radios... they sell them over 100 usd, no joke.
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Just this week someone was trying to get rid of an organ, grandma is moving and asking $200 for it. As a nice guy I sent them a message saying that these type of organs go for $25 or free as kids don't like the sound and they take up so much space. They dropped it down to free but so far no bites. I think I might have got most of the SS stuff in the last few years, the tube stuff goes for more. But even then people expect high prices for them. But they sit unsold. I have never seen an organ with a 10" speaker, that would be interesting. One of the higher end Yamaha's had a 12", 8" and 1" with an additional 8" for vibrato.
Same here. Usually they're asking vertiginous prices for home organs just because there's a Hammond badge on them. Surely they recall that one had to pay about a one year salary for a Hammond organ in the 1970ies or 1980ies. But they obviously ignore the fact that these transistor/LSI Hammonds may have had abundant bells and whistles, but never sounded fine in comparison with a tone wheel, tube powered organ, and especially don't do today, even if they're without issues - which is a very scarce situation.
Anyway, the speakers in them make good but not very efficient guitar speakers, as yet said.
Best regards!
Anyway, the speakers in them make good but not very efficient guitar speakers, as yet said.
Best regards!
Not really a guitar speaker and not a budget speaker either but I'll toss this one out there as I've heard nothing but good things about it. There even use to be a project for a tuned and ported cabinet for this on the ax84 site.
Eminence Delta Pro-12A - 8 ohm 12" 400W Pro Audio Woofer, Little chunky at 8.18 kg.
Usable Frequency Range 52 Hz - 4.5 kHz
Sensitivity* 99.2 dB
Magnet Weight 80 oz.
This one is on my "to do" list with a tuned and ported cab.
Eminence Delta Pro-12A - 8 ohm 12" 400W Pro Audio Woofer, Little chunky at 8.18 kg.
Usable Frequency Range 52 Hz - 4.5 kHz
Sensitivity* 99.2 dB
Magnet Weight 80 oz.
This one is on my "to do" list with a tuned and ported cab.
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I’ve seen the Delta Pro 12 used for guitar and bass. Probably a good modeling amp speaker - it’s flat as a pancake, other than a gentle rising response thru it’s entire operating range. And 98dB real sensitivity. Great general purpose PA driver, easy to work with.
Marshall V30 are not exactly the same as the Celestion V30 although very very close. Indeed, Marshall created the V30 and it was built by Celestion for them, years later Celestion released it under its brand but to avoid patent issues changed it a bit. The Marshall version is 70W, Celestion V30 is 60W (pretty sure they use the same coils but...). Nowadays the Marshall V30 is built at the Celestion factory in England, the Celestion V30 is built in China. And the China made ones still sound somewhat different from the English Celestions (hence the high price of used ones built prior to 1999).
Based on your specs - I think a G12T75 would do really well in a moderate sealed enclosure. I do not remember the one I built but have the T/S if you want them - both for the V30 and T75. The V30 is brighter (btw Marshall ones are smoother) where the T75 in my opinion was made for rhytm and is great at doing it.
g12t-75 would be a good choice, you say it was made for rythm that means it's good for mids/bass or i'm wrong? i'm using a closed cabinet btw
The monsters : wide sound, powerful, highly efficient, but heavy...
Electrovoice EVM12L
ALTEC 417-8H
Eminence EM12 and EM12N
WGS 12L
For a 25W tube amp, it would be too much though !
I like the Eminence 1218 Legend, which offers a smooth, cut-through-the-mix, expressive and responsive tone... 100dB/W/m, 4.5kg, 150WRMS.
I use one in my DIY Paul GUILHEM Deluxe, which is a 25WRMS clean tone amp :
A+!