HI,
I friend have an old Symetrix 544 comp. But the power transformer is burned. So, I need a replacement, the problem is that I have no idea what type of transformer is. The manual have some schematics, but is unreadable. The only that can help, maybe are the voltage regulators.
78M12
79M12
78M15
79M15
Anybody can help?
Thanks.
https://i.ibb.co/mBz2fcL/IMG-20200821-193448494.jpg
I friend have an old Symetrix 544 comp. But the power transformer is burned. So, I need a replacement, the problem is that I have no idea what type of transformer is. The manual have some schematics, but is unreadable. The only that can help, maybe are the voltage regulators.
78M12
79M12
78M15
79M15
Anybody can help?
Thanks.
https://i.ibb.co/mBz2fcL/IMG-20200821-193448494.jpg
As this is a small transformer and the regulators have a 500ma limit then a transformer with an output of 20 volts + and 2 amps + would do.
So, I need a 20v with CT and 2 amps. I think that will be hard to find a pcb mount transformer with the same pin spacing... or you go directly with a toroidal?
Thanks.
Thanks.
There are plenty of "pin through " PCB transformers online at say 24 volts ,if you cant find an exact mechanical match you can drill the PCB to suite and reroute the connections watching you don't interfere with the copper on the other side.
Do NOT !!! try to bend the pins to fit --you have been warned.
Do NOT !!! try to bend the pins to fit --you have been warned.
What do you think about this one?
https://www.hammfg.com/files/parts/pdf/229D20.pdf
Thanks for the advice.
https://www.hammfg.com/files/parts/pdf/229D20.pdf
Thanks for the advice.
After voltage: as a first crack, get one the same *size*.
I doubt this is 20-24V @2A, maybe nearer 0.5A, but it has been a while since I fondled transformers for pay.
EDIT: we can scale the size of the original against the DIP chips with 0.1" pin spacing. The original seems to be about 2/3rd of the linear dimensions. So it is probably 0.3X the weight and the VA. Which puts it near 12VA-15VA, or 48V 0.3A.
Working the other way: 2 dozen(?) chips at 5mA-10mA each is 150mA-200mA DCwhich suggests a 0.3A AC rating.
I doubt this is 20-24V @2A, maybe nearer 0.5A, but it has been a while since I fondled transformers for pay.
EDIT: we can scale the size of the original against the DIP chips with 0.1" pin spacing. The original seems to be about 2/3rd of the linear dimensions. So it is probably 0.3X the weight and the VA. Which puts it near 12VA-15VA, or 48V 0.3A.
Working the other way: 2 dozen(?) chips at 5mA-10mA each is 150mA-200mA DCwhich suggests a 0.3A AC rating.
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What do you think about this one?
https://www.hammfg.com/files/parts/pdf/229D20.pdf
Thanks for the advice.
If it fits I would choose that one too.
Today I mounted two toroidal transformers in series ( 12V 1A each one ), for checking voltages and power consumption.
The voltage regulators works are expected. And the power consumption, measured in AC on each secondary winding of transformers are 34mA more or less, so with two windings they are 170mA more or less. It's possible?
If I check the voltages and power conumptions rigght, a transformer with 12-0-12 and 0.5mA it's enough.
I'm thinking on put an external transformer like the ones on mixer consoles, only for avoid drilling pcb and other botched job.
Behringer PSU6-EU – Thomann Espana
Behringer PSU5-EU – Thomann Espana
And this is a photo of the multimeter:
https://i.ibb.co/rfCb0WZ/IMG-20200822-105618084.jpg
The voltage regulators works are expected. And the power consumption, measured in AC on each secondary winding of transformers are 34mA more or less, so with two windings they are 170mA more or less. It's possible?
If I check the voltages and power conumptions rigght, a transformer with 12-0-12 and 0.5mA it's enough.
I'm thinking on put an external transformer like the ones on mixer consoles, only for avoid drilling pcb and other botched job.
Behringer PSU6-EU – Thomann Espana
Behringer PSU5-EU – Thomann Espana
And this is a photo of the multimeter:
https://i.ibb.co/rfCb0WZ/IMG-20200822-105618084.jpg
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It obviously needs less current than I thought , personally I am not keen on using external power supplies for a PCB intended for a mains transformer due to pick up of external radiation due to the long leads used to feed the PCB but if you are happy with it its your choice .
A "botched job " is only that if it is not thought out and "rushed " I would still fit a soldered in mains transformer it just requires thought on the layout .
A "botched job " is only that if it is not thought out and "rushed " I would still fit a soldered in mains transformer it just requires thought on the layout .
> in AC on ....34mA more or less, so with two windings they are 170mA more or less..... a transformer with 12-0-12 and 0.5mA it's enough.
I think there are typos in these numbers? 340mA? 0.5A?
I think there are typos in these numbers? 340mA? 0.5A?
This is how I measured amperes:
https://i.ibb.co/YRvPShD/Screenshot-20200823-095919.png
Yes, I made a mistake, the amperage on each secondary winding is 0.18A not 0.34mA.
So I will buy this one.
Talema PT15218 :: Talema Transformers :: Transformers :: Passive Components :: Electronic Parts :: Banzai Music GmbH
Sorry.
https://i.ibb.co/YRvPShD/Screenshot-20200823-095919.png
Yes, I made a mistake, the amperage on each secondary winding is 0.18A not 0.34mA.
So I will buy this one.
Talema PT15218 :: Talema Transformers :: Transformers :: Passive Components :: Electronic Parts :: Banzai Music GmbH
Sorry.
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This is the idea that I have:
Make a PCB and manually wiring each winding to corresponding motherboard pads.
https://i.ibb.co/M73hM2n/symetrix-xrms.jpg
And glue the new pcb over the motherboard. Is the only idea that I have.
Make a PCB and manually wiring each winding to corresponding motherboard pads.
https://i.ibb.co/M73hM2n/symetrix-xrms.jpg
And glue the new pcb over the motherboard. Is the only idea that I have.
Finally I solved with a kind of PCB adapter and glued into place:
IMG-20200902-131839408 — ImgBB
IMG-20200902-131028774 — ImgBB
IMG-20200902-125241554-HDR — ImgBB
IMG-20200902-124225672 — ImgBB
and works nice.
IMG-20200902-131839408 — ImgBB
IMG-20200902-131028774 — ImgBB
IMG-20200902-125241554-HDR — ImgBB
IMG-20200902-124225672 — ImgBB
and works nice.
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