Help identify these vintage speakers?

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TommyTinker said:
No, I referred specifically to the looks, such industrial finish in general makes me suspicious, especially when it comes to speakers. After the fall of the Soviet Block in the 90s a lot of similarly looking crap flooded Eastern Europe and hence my bias against shiny industrial looking stuff. People here were throwing out rather decent locally made amps and tuners and bought chrome plated plastic shells with cheapest chinese garbage inside.
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EW, I'm not sure I agree with that. Seems a decently built reflex box to me:

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Which I paperclip to diyaudio, lest imgur lets us down. This is ideal hobbyist stuff IMO. Saves you the effort of woodwork.

I would just be looking for new 8" woofers since the old ones are wrecked and refoaming surrounds is hard work, and possibly a new tweeter. But the tweeter doesn't actually look bad if it works. Give it a crossover and you have a goodish speaker for very little money. Maybe £150 investment. TBH, you'd could pay a £1000 for a new speaker like this nowadays.

BTW, those old 1970's amps are OK for no money, but IMO more modern designs like Rotel deliver much clearer top end. Simply a question of more modern stuff having faster transistors. Feedback on old slow transistors just delivers the audio muddle known as slew-limiting distortion. Basically old power transistors ran out of gain at high frequencies. And you can't fix that with feedback.
 

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system7 said:
BTW, those old 1970's amps are OK for no money, but IMO more modern designs like Rotel deliver much clearer top end. Simply a question of more modern stuff having faster transistors. Feedback on old slow transistors just delivers the audio muddle known as slew-limiting distortion. Basically old power transistors ran out of gain at high frequencies. And you can't fix that with feedback.
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What if I don`t want or need modern amps and don`t particularly like their characteristics? It`s a matter of taste, as everything in audio. I have heard a few modern amps and have found them boring, even annoying. I have no problem with modern digital sources, but when it comes to amps I choose personality over perfection.
 
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I know what you mean. I've mainly used 3 amps over 40yrs, all solid state, all had BW > 40KHz, all sounded good and all were better than my ears.

So Tinker.. you have 2 empty cabinets with no working drivers. Do you need more speakers or is this a tinker project ?
 
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DonVK said:
I know what you mean. I've mainly used 3 amps over 40yrs, all solid state, all had BW > 40KHz, all sounded good and all were better than my ears.

So Tinker.. you have 2 empty cabinets with no working drivers. Do you need more speakers or is this a tinker project ?
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I have a policy to not buy an amp that is younger more than 5 years than me 🙂 , so 1980 or older, with an exception for small form factor amps. I have a soft spot for mini amps and receivers like Pioneer SA-500(A), Marantz 2010/2015, Braun CSV300 or Diora WS-315.

The cabinets you`re talking about are not mine, my Laser L-80s have been refoamed, repadded, partially rewired and await exterior treatment, though I don`t know when I`ll do it, since they would have to be disconnected from the amp for at least a week, and I`m not ready to part with them for so long. I have a couple pairs of other speakers, but even though they are interesting, they are bookshelf units and simply don`t deliver what I`m used to.
 
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