my first post ever on these forums:
. I've been surfing the internet for awhile studying cost effective means of getting HDTV. The N6 unit has been tossed around in the forums. Pc card tuners have also been coming out. I've looked for box tuners online costing $200US and up, used/refurb usually lower priced.
. I went to Fry's Electronics and asked for thir terrestrial HDTV receivers and they stocked only 1 brand, costing $300+. Why?... because most people will subscribe to cable television and easily shelling out $5 rental fee on top of basic $10, or any premium service, for a set-top box (STBs).
. My question is, does anyone have HDTV with a cable service HDTV STB? I came up with an idea which i usually explore those on the 'net to see if anyone else had the same idea. I've surfed and googled for COMPUTER monitor use for HD and finding one promising thread saying it works, and really well. But, that was only one thread.
. Shelling $15 a month for getting cheap HD service sounds good. What I wanted to definitely know was if it works and for anyone with cable or satellite or even an OTA(over-air) tuner to plug thier monitor in to an VGA a.k.a. HD15, RGBhv, and RGB... or a DVI port of thier tuner/set-top box.
It may be helpful if these were also listed:
HDTV Working?[y/n],
screen resolution[native and max compressed],
computer monitor [lcd/crt], connection [vga/dvi],
tuner/set-top box[name, model],
source[OTA, Cable, Satellite]and service provider (Comcast, etc.), and whatever else information you can provide.
. I think this information can help everyone here wanting add-ons to their projects.
PS.. Please, also mention if the set-top box does scaling, line-doubling. Also, mention if you can input peripherals such as vcr, dvd, PSone, Xbox, etc. to get passed on through to the monitor.
On a seperate note relating to DIY lcd projectors, what happens to the image if there is no projector lens( triplet, or other). Can you still project the image on the screen? I'm thinking that having a projector lens just increases throw distance, but i dunno so I'm asking.
sources found:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-135929.html
a post by museumsteve quarter way down
http://www.dansdata.com/hdtv.htm
guy from australia
comcast
http://comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/FaqDetail_177.html
http://comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/FaqDetail_216.html
http://www.comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/FaqDetail_180.html
Hope to hear from ya'll soon
Peace out hommies,
Christian -cXtn 😀
. I've been surfing the internet for awhile studying cost effective means of getting HDTV. The N6 unit has been tossed around in the forums. Pc card tuners have also been coming out. I've looked for box tuners online costing $200US and up, used/refurb usually lower priced.
. I went to Fry's Electronics and asked for thir terrestrial HDTV receivers and they stocked only 1 brand, costing $300+. Why?... because most people will subscribe to cable television and easily shelling out $5 rental fee on top of basic $10, or any premium service, for a set-top box (STBs).
. My question is, does anyone have HDTV with a cable service HDTV STB? I came up with an idea which i usually explore those on the 'net to see if anyone else had the same idea. I've surfed and googled for COMPUTER monitor use for HD and finding one promising thread saying it works, and really well. But, that was only one thread.
. Shelling $15 a month for getting cheap HD service sounds good. What I wanted to definitely know was if it works and for anyone with cable or satellite or even an OTA(over-air) tuner to plug thier monitor in to an VGA a.k.a. HD15, RGBhv, and RGB... or a DVI port of thier tuner/set-top box.
It may be helpful if these were also listed:
HDTV Working?[y/n],
screen resolution[native and max compressed],
computer monitor [lcd/crt], connection [vga/dvi],
tuner/set-top box[name, model],
source[OTA, Cable, Satellite]and service provider (Comcast, etc.), and whatever else information you can provide.
. I think this information can help everyone here wanting add-ons to their projects.
PS.. Please, also mention if the set-top box does scaling, line-doubling. Also, mention if you can input peripherals such as vcr, dvd, PSone, Xbox, etc. to get passed on through to the monitor.
On a seperate note relating to DIY lcd projectors, what happens to the image if there is no projector lens( triplet, or other). Can you still project the image on the screen? I'm thinking that having a projector lens just increases throw distance, but i dunno so I'm asking.
sources found:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-135929.html
a post by museumsteve quarter way down
http://www.dansdata.com/hdtv.htm
guy from australia
comcast
http://comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/FaqDetail_177.html
http://comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/FaqDetail_216.html
http://www.comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/FaqDetail_180.html
Hope to hear from ya'll soon
Peace out hommies,
Christian -cXtn 😀
well, i dont have HDTV, and wont have it for a while, but I will tell you this - without a projection lens, you will just get a blob of light on the screen, unless you put your projector's lcd 1mm away from the projection screen, than you'll get a image the size of the lcd.
In other words, yes, you do need a projection lens.
ATi has recently came out with hdtv wonder, its a HDTV tv tuner, no need for an HD box, just plug it into your cable and go, and even antenna can carry some HDTV as well, and that will work on it too. Its $199 from www.ati.com, but you can probably find it cheaper in a store. Its only sold in US at ati.com.
Im thinking a converter that converts the 3 component signals, Y, Pr, and Pb, to RGB v/h, or the 15" pin monitor jack, should be quite inexpensive, but I dont know much about this stuff.
If I had a HDTV projector, I would definately pass it through my computer, I use it as a scaler for SDTV (standard tv), and get pretty decent results, it deinterlaces at 754x480 at 60fps for NTSC (ye it should be 720x480, but the scaler lets me do more, go figure) and 768x576 at 50 fps for PAL. I can do anamorphic squeeze, or cut off the top and bottom (adjustable to aspect ratio, and what part is cut) to fit the Widescreen 16:9 format of HDTV.
Also I can download cool demos from microsoft.com, short videos that show off WMV HD, they go at 720p and 1080p, and look amazing on my 17" Flat CRT.
In other words, yes, you do need a projection lens.
ATi has recently came out with hdtv wonder, its a HDTV tv tuner, no need for an HD box, just plug it into your cable and go, and even antenna can carry some HDTV as well, and that will work on it too. Its $199 from www.ati.com, but you can probably find it cheaper in a store. Its only sold in US at ati.com.
Im thinking a converter that converts the 3 component signals, Y, Pr, and Pb, to RGB v/h, or the 15" pin monitor jack, should be quite inexpensive, but I dont know much about this stuff.
If I had a HDTV projector, I would definately pass it through my computer, I use it as a scaler for SDTV (standard tv), and get pretty decent results, it deinterlaces at 754x480 at 60fps for NTSC (ye it should be 720x480, but the scaler lets me do more, go figure) and 768x576 at 50 fps for PAL. I can do anamorphic squeeze, or cut off the top and bottom (adjustable to aspect ratio, and what part is cut) to fit the Widescreen 16:9 format of HDTV.
Also I can download cool demos from microsoft.com, short videos that show off WMV HD, they go at 720p and 1080p, and look amazing on my 17" Flat CRT.
grrr! typed alot then my window closed so ill make this short.
ty for reply ancorp,
but what i really wanted to know from the users is :
can you plug a pc monitor directly into a hdtv reciever w/ a vga port and get the hdtv signal in full resolution?
*check* you might have an STB with vga* [i think only HDtv STB's have them]
renting is cheaper than buying a card, external tuner, N6, ect.
is anyone willing to experiment this? the first 2 sources on my first post look promising. But i wanna make sure before commiting to getting cable service.
ps this is what its all about, getting HDTV on the cheap. without buying a 21 inch monster that costs $1000+ (which i suspect gets inflated by the lcd's small dimensions and add-on speakers) when i have a perfectly working pc monitor lying around or even using one that i can switch with my computer when it is off. I also don't want to shell out 100 bucks in one sitting for an OTA reciever.
concerning the 15 pin monitor jack, some STBs have them as an output; look at the australian guy's site( 2nd on source list).
ty for reply ancorp,
but what i really wanted to know from the users is :
can you plug a pc monitor directly into a hdtv reciever w/ a vga port and get the hdtv signal in full resolution?
*check* you might have an STB with vga* [i think only HDtv STB's have them]
renting is cheaper than buying a card, external tuner, N6, ect.
is anyone willing to experiment this? the first 2 sources on my first post look promising. But i wanna make sure before commiting to getting cable service.
ps this is what its all about, getting HDTV on the cheap. without buying a 21 inch monster that costs $1000+ (which i suspect gets inflated by the lcd's small dimensions and add-on speakers) when i have a perfectly working pc monitor lying around or even using one that i can switch with my computer when it is off. I also don't want to shell out 100 bucks in one sitting for an OTA reciever.
concerning the 15 pin monitor jack, some STBs have them as an output; look at the australian guy's site( 2nd on source list).
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/STBs.html
set top box connections
i guess not many people were going to respond as i hoped. i scoured the 'net some more and i found mostly how to connect the pc to an hdtv. If that works i guess you can connect HDrecievers to computer monitors. I doubt that it wouldn't get hdtv. I'll check to see if Comcast has a free trial or 3 month free service. All i know is that my Comcast in my area has hdtv.
set top box connections
i guess not many people were going to respond as i hoped. i scoured the 'net some more and i found mostly how to connect the pc to an hdtv. If that works i guess you can connect HDrecievers to computer monitors. I doubt that it wouldn't get hdtv. I'll check to see if Comcast has a free trial or 3 month free service. All i know is that my Comcast in my area has hdtv.
FOUND!!! IT WORKS
go to google.groups and search "hdtv pc monitor"... you can do it.. tell me your results.
some threads there
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...=UTF-8&c2coff=1&q=hdtv+pc+monitor&btnG=Search
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...tor&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&start=10&sa=N
go to google.groups and search "hdtv pc monitor"... you can do it.. tell me your results.
some threads there
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...=UTF-8&c2coff=1&q=hdtv+pc+monitor&btnG=Search
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...tor&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&start=10&sa=N
SONY
model: CPD-300SFT
Trinirton Color Computer Display
Front: Multiscan 300SF
inputs: VGA, 5 BNC (R, G, B, HD, VD)
20" crt
fat and heavy
bigger than the 20 year old tv in my parents' room which is older than me
and a willing participant on the cheap HDtv experiment
model: CPD-300SFT
Trinirton Color Computer Display
Front: Multiscan 300SF
inputs: VGA, 5 BNC (R, G, B, HD, VD)
20" crt
fat and heavy
bigger than the 20 year old tv in my parents' room which is older than me
and a willing participant on the cheap HDtv experiment
because i'm still researching stuff to get for my lcd projector. but i have a computer monitor i can use to see if it works.
ic.... Well, there are much better chances of you getting it to work on the CRT than on the LCD, because of
1. The CRT will definately have higher resolution, thuse support for higher modes.
2. The CRT can support interlaced video.
3 The CRT has the RGBHV jacks (does it?) and ive never seen lcds have them, many scalers and some hdtv sources use that wire format.
1. The CRT will definately have higher resolution, thuse support for higher modes.
2. The CRT can support interlaced video.
3 The CRT has the RGBHV jacks (does it?) and ive never seen lcds have them, many scalers and some hdtv sources use that wire format.
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