I can remember as a kid back in the 50's and getting our first TV set, a 12 inch B&W, the curtains needed to be pulled for daytime viewing and the contrast was terrible. Digital technology has advanced consumer electronics amazingly.
yet the tube and turntable crowd, although embracing the digital age with everything else electronic they purchase somehow believe that tubes and a pointed thingy being dragged through a groove has some kind of magic.
It does not make any sense to me.
I have 4 really good turntables that will never ever be used.
Hi,
Well, it certainly is not our fault, that You don't know a serious person with experience 😀
But we do! 😛
Quality software as prerequisite, my music server scores on all fields over vinyl.
Still hough I like to listen to my vinyl every now and then.
Beeing a nasty 6-yeared brat, I'd say that vinyl is for those guys who'd like to play with a toy railway, but aren't allowed to by their wifes, who regard toy railways as too childish
jauu
Calvin
Well, it certainly is not our fault, that You don't know a serious person with experience 😀
But we do! 😛
Quality software as prerequisite, my music server scores on all fields over vinyl.
Still hough I like to listen to my vinyl every now and then.
Beeing a nasty 6-yeared brat, I'd say that vinyl is for those guys who'd like to play with a toy railway, but aren't allowed to by their wifes, who regard toy railways as too childish
jauu
Calvin
A test vinyl-lovers should do. Record a few of your favorite albums to digital, then compare the playback of what you just recorded, and do a blind comparison to the vinyl. See if you can actually hear a difference.
No, not a "sighted" comparison. Blind. Try it.
No, not a "sighted" comparison. Blind. Try it.
Until now vinyl is the absolute best... but maybe in five years the vinyl market has disappeared.
The DSD, the Chord Hugo and the Pono Player, I think that make a turning point. When everything comes together: a very high quality and cheap source, a very high quality digital format and a type of digital processing such as in the Chord Hugo, will be the end of the vinyl. With the speed at which the digital world moves surely will in a few years.
Regards
The DSD, the Chord Hugo and the Pono Player, I think that make a turning point. When everything comes together: a very high quality and cheap source, a very high quality digital format and a type of digital processing such as in the Chord Hugo, will be the end of the vinyl. With the speed at which the digital world moves surely will in a few years.
Regards
I am not worthy as I have no experience...
of hearing cable directivity...
of hearing the difference cable lifters make...
of not hearing the difference a tice clock makes...
of cable break-in...
I enjoy playing my records and I enjoy my music from my hard drive or a CD, but I am not blind to the facts regarding the playback media I use, I don't distort my personal reality to fit my beliefs.
I don't buy into the emperors new clothes.
of hearing cable directivity...
of hearing the difference cable lifters make...
of not hearing the difference a tice clock makes...
of cable break-in...
I enjoy playing my records and I enjoy my music from my hard drive or a CD, but I am not blind to the facts regarding the playback media I use, I don't distort my personal reality to fit my beliefs.
I don't buy into the emperors new clothes.
The emperor was (almost) naked. Now he has some (digital) clothes. Some people prefer him with (almost) no clothes, and so claim that his new clothes are inferior to nakedness. They don't mind that he was cold and looked rather silly; back then it was all they had.marce said:
The problem is the actual data regarding all this does not support this view, now saying I subjectively prefer vinyl is OK, but claiming against all the information out there regarding noise, dynamic range, platter speed control etc is incorrect... and this is a big problem with audio, the facts don't often support the beliefs so the facts must be wrong....
So we end up with the cant measure it... those who disagree are deaf daft and have no experience and have cloth ears.... It is becoming a bit of a joke.
Yes. I have found it. Laptop with Gustard USB/AES interface and a behringer SRC/DEQ/and jan didden active DCX.
The TT is SP10 with dynavector 507 and Benz Wood HO, phono section is modified Peter Daniel.
The TT is SP10 with dynavector 507 and Benz Wood HO, phono section is modified Peter Daniel.
Thorens TD 124 II without arm
Thorens TD 125 MKII SME arm
Ariston RDII with SME arm. This deck later became the LP12
Technics SL 110A Mayware arm
I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but I thoroughly enjoy the RITUAL of listening to music on vinyl much more than digital sources.
The process of taking a record out of the sleeve, gently placing it on the turntable, cleaning the groves out, and then gently placing the needle on the surface is enjoyable. And after that you know what I do? I sit on my couch and I listen to the record. I don't do anything else because listening to music is what I'm doing. When I listen to digital music sources I find myself easily distracted and end up doing something else but with the music on in the background.
I think with digital sources maybe music is too readily available for me to truly appreciate the listening process. With vinyl I really have to earn it. Most of my records are from local thrift stores where I've spent hours digging through piles of terrible records (terrible condition or terrible music 😉 ) to find a gem.
I think this is also part of the reason food you grow tastes better and DIY audio sounds better. Sure the food might have been grown more carefully and in a better environment, or the speakers may be better engineered, but you also had to EARN that experience. And I think the effect of earning something should not be discounted.
And that's why I still listen to vinyl, often, and with a big smile on my face. Because it's fun and I worked for it 🙂
The process of taking a record out of the sleeve, gently placing it on the turntable, cleaning the groves out, and then gently placing the needle on the surface is enjoyable. And after that you know what I do? I sit on my couch and I listen to the record. I don't do anything else because listening to music is what I'm doing. When I listen to digital music sources I find myself easily distracted and end up doing something else but with the music on in the background.
I think with digital sources maybe music is too readily available for me to truly appreciate the listening process. With vinyl I really have to earn it. Most of my records are from local thrift stores where I've spent hours digging through piles of terrible records (terrible condition or terrible music 😉 ) to find a gem.
I think this is also part of the reason food you grow tastes better and DIY audio sounds better. Sure the food might have been grown more carefully and in a better environment, or the speakers may be better engineered, but you also had to EARN that experience. And I think the effect of earning something should not be discounted.
And that's why I still listen to vinyl, often, and with a big smile on my face. Because it's fun and I worked for it 🙂
Not to be overlooked! And that can have an effect on your perceptions of the sound as well.
Via Jan Didden:
Just supposing I thought there was an advantage in sound quality by listening to vinyl, which I do not. I would not bother, just too much trouble, at my age I do not need to earn anything, I'm retired.
It's nice to sit back and listen to music without worrying whether I've cleaned the disc enough and when the next click will occur.
Rummaging through old thrift store vinyl hoping to find undamaged ones seems such a time waster. In Feb, I was over in the UK and picked up in a thrift store, a boxed set of Beethoven's Complete Masterpieces, 60 CD's for 5 pound. No need to check for damage, just count that there were in fact 60 discs. How could you repeat this in vinyl?
My days of tube amps and record players are long gone, thank goodness, but they must appeal to some, judging by the prices the old stuff sells for.
It's nice to sit back and listen to music without worrying whether I've cleaned the disc enough and when the next click will occur.
Rummaging through old thrift store vinyl hoping to find undamaged ones seems such a time waster. In Feb, I was over in the UK and picked up in a thrift store, a boxed set of Beethoven's Complete Masterpieces, 60 CD's for 5 pound. No need to check for damage, just count that there were in fact 60 discs. How could you repeat this in vinyl?
My days of tube amps and record players are long gone, thank goodness, but they must appeal to some, judging by the prices the old stuff sells for.
when I was a student second hand vinyl was cheap and plentiful as people switched to CD.
Now second hand CDs are cheap and plentiful as people are going to streaming services and the clud. Although you got a real bargain there!
Now second hand CDs are cheap and plentiful as people are going to streaming services and the clud. Although you got a real bargain there!
Ha Ha, it's the same in Canada.
There is a thrift store across from the bar I use and they recently lowered the price of CD's to 50 cents and raised the price of vinyl to $1 with the excuse that vinyl has become a collectors item!😛
I had to google that, and it was 21 years ago this week:
"What's All This Hoax Stuff, Anyhow?"
What's All This Hoax Stuff, Anyhow? | Lighting content from Electronic Design
Any Diy Dac(s) available on this site that would compete with Bemchmark ?
I think HiRez downloads is the solution..
I design and build superior speaker to everyone, that area is covered😀
You only want compete with not annihilate? 😀 Presumably you're not talking numbers since Benchmark's designed to ace the numbers game.
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