I don't - but if they do then my customers probably will too, and that's cool.😎
There it is.
A bad sign - even humour does not compute ... 😀
Trying to understand human behaviour and capabilities as if it were simple machine operation has got scientists into trouble over and over again, through the decades - but still they haven't learned, 🙂.
A general rule is, if the feedback from what you're investigating shows consistency, and a steady improvement in one's ability to predict, and make the right choices, first time, in terms of what should be done to make things "better" - then knowledge, yes, the real thing, is being acquired.
Trying to understand human behaviour and capabilities as if it were simple machine operation has got scientists into trouble over and over again, through the decades - but still they haven't learned, 🙂.
A general rule is, if the feedback from what you're investigating shows consistency, and a steady improvement in one's ability to predict, and make the right choices, first time, in terms of what should be done to make things "better" - then knowledge, yes, the real thing, is being acquired.
Ironically if I were asked to name an individual who's as far from the 'classic audiophile' stereotype as its possible to be, I reckon Frank would come to mind 🙂 But I speculate because nobody's actually asked me that.
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A bad sign - even humour does not compute ... 😀
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Trying to understand human behaviour and capabilities as if it were simple machine operation has got scientists into trouble over and over again, through the decades - but still they haven't learned, 🙂.
I prescribe a healthy dose of Robert Rosen - for example 'Life Itself' :
Amazon.com: Life Itself: A Comprehensive Inquiry into the Nature, Origin, and Fabrication of Life (Complexity in Ecological Systems) (9780231075657): Robert Rosen: Books
Yep, I'm a true outsider - I can see the positives that both the subjectivists and the objectivists bring to the table - and I cut out the good bits, and throw the rest in the bin, 😀. In contrast, I'm a pragmatist - do whatever is needed to get the job done, all tall poppies will be cut down without a moment's hesitation, are my mottoes, 😉.
Certainly perceived as alien enough by some here Frank to prefer speculation as to your intentions/aims rather than ask a direct question 😀
You perceive Frank's behaviour as 'self-aggrandizement' ?
<edit> Like my earlier questions I rather suspect you'll avoid answering it. Giving an affirmative leaves you open to a further question - what makes you so sure of your perception, particularly when you've been arguing that perception can't be trusted? Don't like the look of that question much I'd hazard 😀
<edit> Like my earlier questions I rather suspect you'll avoid answering it. Giving an affirmative leaves you open to a further question - what makes you so sure of your perception, particularly when you've been arguing that perception can't be trusted? Don't like the look of that question much I'd hazard 😀
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Nice ... I like this, http://www.panmere.com/?page_id=16 ...I prescribe a healthy dose of Robert Rosen - for example 'Life Itself' :
Amazon.com: Life Itself: A Comprehensive Inquiry into the Nature, Origin, and Fabrication of Life (Complexity in Ecological Systems) (9780231075657): Robert Rosen: Books
Sometimes it's worth spruiking a bit more loudly, if you feel it's in everyone's interest to note a direction that is largely ignored ...
I like to listen to both: for the heavy complex music (serious music) I prefer the vinyl, and classical music. However the quality varies exponentially in vinyl. CD's are mostly average quality with very few exceptions.
For pop music or rock I prefer CD's, for solo instruments and small ensembles I prefer vinyl. Each medium has its strengths and weaknesses.
So yes, CD's satisfy my ears as much when I want polite sound, rock sounds very rough and brutal (deadly honest noise hehe) on vinyl.
For pop music or rock I prefer CD's, for solo instruments and small ensembles I prefer vinyl. Each medium has its strengths and weaknesses.
So yes, CD's satisfy my ears as much when I want polite sound, rock sounds very rough and brutal (deadly honest noise hehe) on vinyl.
You perceive Frank's behaviour as 'self-aggrandizement' ?
<edit> Like my earlier questions I rather suspect you'll avoid answering it. Giving an affirmative leaves you open to a further question - what makes you so sure of your perception, particularly when you've been arguing that perception can't be trusted? Don't like the look of that question much I'd hazard 😀
Why answer rhetorical questions?
This is remarkably simplistic thinking - something along the lines that if you see a woman momentarily in ideal lighting conditions you might perceive her as beautiful, and therefore from then on the reality is that she's beautiful, 😀.
The massive flaw here is that human sensing of behaviours and surroundings is enormously dynamic and complex, it's constantly updating and varying "its take" on what's going on, from second to second. Believing you can take a person and stick him in a laboratory, and study his behaviour like that of a chimp, and think that you then understand what makes him tick ... that has the strong smell of narcissism to me.
The notion of perception altering reality was explained to me by a clinical psychologist, and Doctor of Medicine.
However, I see that your opinion of psychology is also rather demeaning. What you smell is not narcissism, it is science.
This is a giveaway, sorry, 😱! The playback chain has a problem - "polite" sound is not 'right' sound - something like rock should be very intense, grab you by the short and curlies 🙂, without being unpleasant in the slightest ... why rock can fail to work on a system is that it requires total cleanness, any added distortion from playback completely messes up the structure of the sound, and so the solution is often to dull down the quality by subtle alterations, intentionally or otherwise, of part of the chain.I like to listen to both: for the heavy complex music (serious music) I prefer the vinyl, and classical music. However the quality varies exponentially in vinyl. CD's are mostly average quality with very few exceptions.
For pop music or rock I prefer CD's, for solo instruments and small ensembles I prefer vinyl. Each medium has its strengths and weaknesses.
So yes, CD's satisfy my ears as much when I want polite sound, rock sounds very rough and brutal (deadly honest noise hehe) on vinyl.
Whose is the rhetorical one?
Asking if I see Frank's behaviour as self aggrandizement is clearly rhetorical.
Though I have seen you ask questions that make me wonder about your level of reading comprehension. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and wrote them off as being debating tools. I may have been mistaken.
Many folks come to forums just to have their opinions validated. They find like minded people that are willing to support their positions, and think that implies they have credibility.
It doesn't. It just means that there are others out there that are wrong in the same way.
I see it as over-simplistic science ... black and white answers, for complex issues ...However, I see that your opinion of psychology is also rather demeaning. What you smell is not narcissism, it is science.
Asking if I see Frank's behaviour as self aggrandizement is clearly rhetorical.
Nope, I asked out of curiosity.
Many folks come to forums just to have their opinions validated. They find like minded people that are willing to support their positions, and think that implies they have credibility.
Seems plausible certainly given the evidence on this thread. Plenty of opinions have been put forward, little evidence and reasoning has been evinced.
This is a giveaway, sorry, 😱! The playback chain has a problem - "polite" sound is not 'right' sound - something like rock should be very intense, grab you by the short and curlies 🙂, without being unpleasant in the slightest ... why rock can fail to work on a system is that it requires total cleanness, any added distortion from playback completely messes up the structure of the sound, and so the solution is often to dull down the quality by subtle alterations, intentionally or otherwise, of part of the chain.
It is hard to make sense of what could cause high CD distortion in my system...
I don't know how you can conclude that my CD setup has more distortion than a 1% needle... I perceive my vinyl setup to have way more distortion, a raised top end, more deep bass and more distortions especially in the bass.
Regardless, I am as satisfied with CD as with Vinyl but keeps vinyl for most hifi recordings such as cantatas music which is not rendered will in cd format.
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