I found this woofer on Parts Express:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=290-360
Qts = 1.09
Fs = 33
Xmass = 4.6mm
Price = $28.95US
The Xmass is a little light but everything else looks good for use as a dipole sub.
Anybody familiar with this driver? What do you all think??
Thanks -
Bruce
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=290-360
Qts = 1.09
Fs = 33
Xmass = 4.6mm
Price = $28.95US
The Xmass is a little light but everything else looks good for use as a dipole sub.
Anybody familiar with this driver? What do you all think??
Thanks -
Bruce
Taking the plunge...
Well, didn't get a lot of feedback on this one...
The drivers aren't that expensive so I ordered four of them. I'll put them in an H-frame cabinet and let you know how it goes.
Stay tuned -
Bruce
Well, didn't get a lot of feedback on this one...
The drivers aren't that expensive so I ordered four of them. I'll put them in an H-frame cabinet and let you know how it goes.
Stay tuned -
Bruce
Qt is over 1 so it will always be boomy- but the good news is that most people are used to that sort of bass- and a dipole will ensure it doesnt get boomier.
Cheers!
Cheers!
High or low Q, that is the question....
I am struggling with the concept Q in terms of an open baffled woofer. Many poeple on here are saying that high Q will need less EQ, but then it seems that there is way to have clean bass with a woofer that stores some much energy......can someone elaborate further?
Greg
I am struggling with the concept Q in terms of an open baffled woofer. Many poeple on here are saying that high Q will need less EQ, but then it seems that there is way to have clean bass with a woofer that stores some much energy......can someone elaborate further?
Greg
Qt = 0.5 'critically damped' with very good damping.
Qt = 0.7 Often chosen as a good compromise between extension and damping
Qt= 1.0 3db peak in response, boomy sound with several cycle overhang.
A low Qt results in no bass but a highly damped system- If you aim for Qt=0.7 its a good result. (car audio type)
The graphs reveal all!
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=366547#post366547
Qt = 0.7 Often chosen as a good compromise between extension and damping
Qt= 1.0 3db peak in response, boomy sound with several cycle overhang.
A low Qt results in no bass but a highly damped system- If you aim for Qt=0.7 its a good result. (car audio type)
The graphs reveal all!
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=366547#post366547
Re: High or low Q, that is the question....
With all due respect to mike.e those guidelines are meaningless with regards to your question.
The point of the high Q is to pick a driver with a large bump in the low freq response so that if you just trim down it's upper end plateau with your low pass filter you can get very close to a flat freq response.
If you go to diysubwoofers.org, download Brian's dipole.xls spreadsheet you can play with driver parameters, baffle size, and LP filter until it becomes clear.
studiotech said:I am struggling with the concept Q in terms of an open baffled woofer. Many poeple on here are saying that high Q will need less EQ, but then it seems that there is way to have clean bass with a woofer that stores some much energy......can someone elaborate further?
With all due respect to mike.e those guidelines are meaningless with regards to your question.
The point of the high Q is to pick a driver with a large bump in the low freq response so that if you just trim down it's upper end plateau with your low pass filter you can get very close to a flat freq response.
If you go to diysubwoofers.org, download Brian's dipole.xls spreadsheet you can play with driver parameters, baffle size, and LP filter until it becomes clear.
The point of the high Q is to pick a driver with a large bump in the low freq response so that if you just trim down it's upper end plateau with your low pass filter you can get very close to a flat freq response.
Yes, I get this, but then how does this fact NOT translate into sloppy bass with no pitch definition? This is where I'm not making the connection, because the same high Q woofer in a box would be very sloppy sounding, even if EQ'ed back to being more flat of a response, right? This is due to the stored energy correct?
That seems like a bad thing. Maybe this is why Mr. Linkwitz chooses a low Q woofer needing lots of EQ to get back to a proper freq. response.
Greg
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