Well, not actually infinite but lots. I have a bass amplifier which will push 800W into my 4ohm 2X12 cabinet. However for the gigs I am currently playing I don't need anything like that much so, I am hatching a plot to us a single 8ohm driver in a smaller cab. That knocks it down to 500W and I drop another 3 db by ditching one driver.
What could I use that is small, robust, and linear? Efficiency does not matter.
What could I use that is small, robust, and linear? Efficiency does not matter.
Several reasons why Barefaced is not a solution this instance. Lets just leave it there, OK?
It does not need to be as high tech or as efficient. It could even be a single 10.
It does not need to be as high tech or as efficient. It could even be a single 10.
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wrong forum to ask about what would comprise a single full range speaker?
well, "gig" and talking about a 2x12 cabinet sounds more live PA gear to me - from ErnieM's reply it seems he reached the same conclusion
but the first brand names that comes to mind are Eminence & Celestion
Its a speaker cabinet. It doesn't care why it exists. I only care about what it will do. Only the physics matters.
Its a speaker cabinet. It doesn't care why it exists. I only care about what it will do. Only the physics matters.
I just think the folks in the PA forum will have more experience in this particular area
It is NOT a PA cab. Even if it was, a loud speaker is merely a transducer. removing the requirement for efficient output allows more freedom to explore the potential to create a even sounding speaker.
However, this is an uphill conversation and I can see that I am not welcome, so I shall remove myself from it.
However, this is an uphill conversation and I can see that I am not welcome, so I shall remove myself from it.
Go with a higher impedance load, such 16 or 32 Ω.
I have a 10", RCF, but never used it, 16 Ω .
a multi-way would be optimum, since the power...has the finality to 'meet'
the air around, and speacialized drivers are made for the job.
So, I'd go for a 16 or 32 Ω load. Something like 2 X 12" -8Ω in series, plus
my RCF 😀 and some vintage horn with its 16 Ω driver.
Not mentioning the crossover 😱
I have a 10", RCF, but never used it, 16 Ω .
a multi-way would be optimum, since the power...has the finality to 'meet'
the air around, and speacialized drivers are made for the job.
So, I'd go for a 16 or 32 Ω load. Something like 2 X 12" -8Ω in series, plus
my RCF 😀 and some vintage horn with its 16 Ω driver.
Not mentioning the crossover 😱
It is NOT a PA cab. Even if it was, a loud speaker is merely a transducer. removing the requirement for efficient output allows more freedom to explore the potential to create a even sounding speaker.
However, this is an uphill conversation and I can see that I am not welcome, so I shall remove myself from it.
jeees, don't get yer nix in a twist - everything from your opening post to your avatar, to much of the content on the facebook page in your signature line suggested that this could be for live performance, rather than the reproduction of recorded music
to my mind, that makes it a PA rig , that's all , and very few musical instrument or "PA" worthy speakers I've personally heard could be described as linear
it's probably me who's not welcome in this conversation
it's probably me who's not welcome in this conversation
Possibly, but everything about this thread seems at somewhat at odds with the usual fare normally encountered on the FR forum.
For an 8" driver there's the Visaton B200, Mark Audio makes an 8" and SEAS have the relatively new FA22RCZ. Fostex make some FR 8" drivers but from what I've read they can be a bit hit and miss.
It would have been good if this pbassred person had bothered to describe which frequency range he was looking for because that would narrow down the selection. Sounds like he is mostly into attacking those who try to help.
Possibly, but everything about this thread seems at somewhat at odds with the usual fare normally encountered on the FR forum.
For an 8" driver there's the Visaton B200, Mark Audio makes an 8" and SEAS have the relatively new FA22RCZ. Fostex make some FR 8" drivers but from what I've read they can be a bit hit and miss.
I'm as big a fan of Mark's drivers and selected Fostex as anyone, but none of them would be on my list of drivers for my son who's in a small band himself to play at any SPL level with an electric bass, lead or rhythm, or for that matter even miked acoustic - the dynamics and excursion would kill many of them - most particularly so if "nearly infinite" power was available.
I promised myself not to go on about this, but until the application is certain, rather than assumed, any recommendations could be ill-advised as best .
Something from any of the pro PA, musical instrument providers would be on my short list.
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PS - Cal, buddy, any suggestions?
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It could even be a single 10.
There's many reasons why this won't work. First of all you'll hit xmax much before those 500 watt or whatever you think about running through it. Second the distortion level will be so much higher from the driver moving that much.. etc
Those reasons will be much more vital if you get some HiFi driver with an efficiency of 88-90dB instead of the 95-98dB of a PA speaker..
That's the point though, we know very little about anything. If the op is after a single 8" full range, for sound quality and lower SPL then this is significantly different than something that can reproduce high SPLs, at least without a high-pass.
Hmmm...
If this driver's gonna be on the receiving end of that sort of power, I'd take no half-measures with regards to power handling.
Speaker Detail | Eminence Speaker
Go sealed, make it have it. EQ might be needed.
Chris
If this driver's gonna be on the receiving end of that sort of power, I'd take no half-measures with regards to power handling.
Speaker Detail | Eminence Speaker
Go sealed, make it have it. EQ might be needed.
Chris
"I promised myself not to go on about this, but until the application is certain, rather than assumed, any recommendations could be ill-advised as best ."
And the guy asking the questions could be snapping your head off😛
And the guy asking the questions could be snapping your head off😛
a multi-way would be optimum, since the power...has the finality to 'meet'
the air around, and speacialized drivers are made for the job.
Who's the genius that wrote that 😕
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