Hi DragonMaster,
The table new was about $250 I think, on sale. The Shure cartridges sound like
, so you don't really care about them.
All in all, I think $250 is steep. The guy is a dreamer. Also, the body of a cartridge doesn't cost much, the money is in the stylus. If you pick one of these up, try an Ortofon cartridge. Well worth it. I'd be more concerned about the bearings and belt.
-Chris
The table new was about $250 I think, on sale. The Shure cartridges sound like

All in all, I think $250 is steep. The guy is a dreamer. Also, the body of a cartridge doesn't cost much, the money is in the stylus. If you pick one of these up, try an Ortofon cartridge. Well worth it. I'd be more concerned about the bearings and belt.
-Chris
The Shure cartridges sound like , so you don't really care about them.
Why is everybody praising the V15, a lot of people that suggested me the Grado Prestige use this?
I disagree.anatech said:The Shure cartridges sound like![]()
I do agree, though, that 250 USD is pricey for the TD-115.
Hi DragonMaster,
More than once at audio shows I've walked by a booth and been able to tell the poor rep that they were running a Shure (in the days they used turntables). Invariably they were stunned as I was correct. Shure has a characteristic hard or brittle sound, like a cheap CD player. Listen to something better and you will understand. I used to sell Shure.
I felt like a pusher.
In all fairness, they sound better than Excel and a host of others, but still nasty. I do find Ortofon quite acceptable as an example.
-Chris
Why do people drive Fords? Advertising and price. If you look at the 70's and 80's, Pioneer, Dual (who changed to Ortofon) and Shure would make a no brain system. Couple that with Cerwin Vega!, or JBL and you have an advertisers result.Why is everybody praising the V15, a lot of people that suggested me the Grado Prestige use this?
More than once at audio shows I've walked by a booth and been able to tell the poor rep that they were running a Shure (in the days they used turntables). Invariably they were stunned as I was correct. Shure has a characteristic hard or brittle sound, like a cheap CD player. Listen to something better and you will understand. I used to sell Shure.





In all fairness, they sound better than Excel and a host of others, but still nasty. I do find Ortofon quite acceptable as an example.
-Chris
Maybe I could just get the discwasher and tools (if he accepts to sell them separately) ??
Now that I got my new amp, LPs sound WAY better, but the tonearm still isn't S-shaped, so you get more and more distortion as you go thru the end of the record. (When you start to listen an LP, it sounds very good, and at the end you have the impression to listen to a RadioShack portable cassette recorder coming with a TRS-80).
Now that I got my new amp, LPs sound WAY better, but the tonearm still isn't S-shaped, so you get more and more distortion as you go thru the end of the record. (When you start to listen an LP, it sounds very good, and at the end you have the impression to listen to a RadioShack portable cassette recorder coming with a TRS-80).
more distortion as you go thru the end of the record
I am almost certain your cartidge isn't aligned properly. I had both s shape and straight, and if it sounded crappy at the end - the alignment was off.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here...
How about a Rega Planar 2 with an RB250 arm? You can find them on eBay for not too much ($300 or less if you are lucky) and there are a lot of upgrades that can be performed on the table and arm to keep it competitive:
- wiring upgrade (http://www.tonearm.co.uk/tonearm.htm)
- counterweight upgrade (http://www.tonearm.co.uk/tonearm.htm)
- motor upgrade (http://www.rega.co.uk/index2.htm --> Upgrades)
- sub-platter upgrade (http://www.groovetracer.com/subplatter_groovetracer.htm)
- platter upgrade (http://www.groovetracer.com/acrylic _platter_groovetracer.htm)
I’m actually running a Planar 3 with an old R200 arm (with a wiring upgrade) and a DL110 on my home theater system and it sounds fantastic. Not as good as my NA Interspace, but pretty damn good for about $250.00.
-Derek
How about a Rega Planar 2 with an RB250 arm? You can find them on eBay for not too much ($300 or less if you are lucky) and there are a lot of upgrades that can be performed on the table and arm to keep it competitive:
- wiring upgrade (http://www.tonearm.co.uk/tonearm.htm)
- counterweight upgrade (http://www.tonearm.co.uk/tonearm.htm)
- motor upgrade (http://www.rega.co.uk/index2.htm --> Upgrades)
- sub-platter upgrade (http://www.groovetracer.com/subplatter_groovetracer.htm)
- platter upgrade (http://www.groovetracer.com/acrylic _platter_groovetracer.htm)
I’m actually running a Planar 3 with an old R200 arm (with a wiring upgrade) and a DL110 on my home theater system and it sounds fantastic. Not as good as my NA Interspace, but pretty damn good for about $250.00.
-Derek
I had a plannar2 before i bought my lenco, the lenco wiped the floor with the rega.
My lenco is in a heavy ply plinth with the regas rb250 arm.
Cheaper and better than the rega.
My lenco is in a heavy ply plinth with the regas rb250 arm.
Cheaper and better than the rega.
Hi DragonMaster,
Brand new in the box? Maybe, I haven't checked around.
Used - not a chance! If this is the same guy, walk away. He's delusional.
-Chris
Brand new in the box? Maybe, I haven't checked around.
Used - not a chance! If this is the same guy, walk away. He's delusional.
-Chris
Yup, it's the same guy. The good thing if it would come from him is that the kit is complete with box(but used) and there's no shipping to pay.
What about a D4 kit for $15?
What about a D4 kit for $15?
Hi DragonMaster,
I don't know. My feeling is that he is unrealistic. I sold discwashers new for around $30. CDN in the late 70's. I ahve no idea what the last known price was, or where he is getting his valuations from.
-Chris
I don't know. My feeling is that he is unrealistic. I sold discwashers new for around $30. CDN in the late 70's. I ahve no idea what the last known price was, or where he is getting his valuations from.
-Chris
In fact, D4 is available new. Is the Discwasher kit a D4 + antistatic gun? (You can find both separately, but is there something missing once you have both?)
Got an MC preamp now! In fact, the Yamaha CA-2010 amp I just got has options for MC, 47kOhm, 68kOhm and 100kOhm cartridges.
Even the TD-125, 135 and 136 are overpriced, they all sell for ~$600, about the same as the 124.
Even the TD-125, 135 and 136 are overpriced, they all sell for ~$600, about the same as the 124.
Hi DragonMaster,
My personal favorite so far is the 125 MKII. Watch garage sales, Ebay seems to be built on dreams. Therefore, used gear sellers are dreaming too. The problem is that they are getting these prices sometimes. Dreams do come true for some.
-Chris
The ability to make people scream if you don't get the static gun.(You can find both separately, but is there something missing once you have both?)

My personal favorite so far is the 125 MKII. Watch garage sales, Ebay seems to be built on dreams. Therefore, used gear sellers are dreaming too. The problem is that they are getting these prices sometimes. Dreams do come true for some.
-Chris
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