Getting 14.4v

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yes I thought about that, that's always an issue going with unregulated. The XFMR regulation and initial tolerance of the mains voltage should be taken care of for the most part with checking the transformer under full load in situ. ie not really mobile. Also using an oversized 400 VA toroid should bring the regulation closer to +2% at light load ie not zero load. The preferred solution is using a battery and an auxilary charger.
The OP's target of 14.4 V seems a little high, I would aim lower, like I said earlier s/b at 13.4 Vdc nominal.

I'm trying to squeeze out 160W x 2 nominal , this is underrated even so .
( i can't find it's manual )

I've seen a oversized toroid for 40$ at my nearby electronics store .
( not sure what it's rating , i can't possibly tear open the plastic wrapping it up . )
Oddly the MRV-400 has a big toroid inside . ( And also , i only need +-5% 14.4v power , as the MRV - 400's SMPS is quite beefy . )
 
this is what you need. 400VA 60 Hz toroid > note it is about 4 kilos, now that's beefy.
You should measure your AC mains at several points during the day to get the min and max line voltage at high demand and low demand periods. This way you will have a better idea of how the actual test conditions will affect your situation.
 
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This is tough for me ,
yes , i have Alpine MRV-400 Amp that is full of BJT's but i have no power consumption , i only know that the max amount of power before the fuses in it blow is 40A ( which is about 576W ) .

And i guess a tranny that should output nearly 14.4v after bridge rectification .
Can anyone point me in the right direction ? ( It in the amp has a SMPS already . )

if you are thinking of using your amp in the house using ac line power, i believe you will be better off bypassing the smps supply and go for a linear dual rail psu, look at the inside of the amp, if you filter caps are say 63volts dc, then most likely you have +-55volt rails....

you can then buils a psu based on this....this is what i'd do if that amp was mine.....😀😀
 
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Yes bypassing the SMPS make sense from an engineer's POV. but this takes extra knowledge and esp. commitment, Not everyone fits this category! commitment of the OP and/ or his mentors time, and resources building a DC supply that is very limited to it's specific use.
Building an extra big AC to DC 14 V supply could prove to be a valuable piece of gear for folks that dabble with 12V electronics or need to charge auto batteries quickly from time to time.
 
you need to start modifying the unit making it unlikely to return to it's stock resale value once the deams fade.
what about supporting built in protection functions like shut down etc. you need to get the schematic and find out what's going on before just ripping out parts and adding wires, right?

Precisely , what i need is just 14.4v .
I don't want to bypass it, it's more then complicated and no one has the schematics for it .
And it makes no sense to use pure regulated.
Just a 400va 50hz 240v tranny , 1 diode bridge recto, CC network will be fine .
 
this is what you need. 400VA 60 Hz toroid > note it is about 4 kilos, now that's beefy.
You should measure your AC mains at several points during the day to get the min and max line voltage at high demand and low demand periods. This way you will have a better idea of how the actual test conditions will affect your situation.

4kg ? I was expecting 10kg .
That's a solid looking tranny.
12v bef rectifying , 16.8 vdc but this is well within its voltage range, allow 2v drop for load
and fluctuations.
good , my amp is a beefy 6kg already.
Amp heads are always way heavier then just 20kg .
How about caps recommendations?
should i parallel 2 x 20Kuf ?
 
you need to start modifying the unit making it unlikely to return to it's stock resale value once the deams fade.
what about supporting built in protection functions like shut down etc. you need to get the schematic and find out what's going on before just ripping out parts and adding wires, right?

look at post #6....but as you say, if you don't know what youre' doing, then don't....😀
 
14.4 volts is just one of the conventions.....a fully charged batter well have an unloaded terminal voltage of 13.8 but load the battery and it drops to 12volts....

you need a source of 12 volts dc with high current, something easily obtained with 2 or more atx psu's in parallel....
 
Are you sure?
If the car amp has an SMPS inside it to convert ~14Vdc to a dual polarity regulated +-60Vdc, then you should find that the +-60Vdc holds fairly steady for a range of input voltages around the 11Vdc to 16Vdc mark.
If it can't hold a steady PSU voltage then there is something wrong with the SMPS and Regulator by design or by abuse.
 
Are you sure?
If the car amp has an SMPS inside it to convert ~14Vdc to a dual polarity regulated +-60Vdc, then you should find that the +-60Vdc holds fairly steady for a range of input voltages around the 11Vdc to 16Vdc mark.
If it can't hold a steady PSU voltage then there is something wrong with the SMPS and Regulator by design or by abuse.

~60v at 12v , ~72v at 14.4v
 
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