Im glad we are on the same page.
BTW, I would have never have imagined a light bulb to have so many uses.
I wish we could just discuss something along the lines of vicente fox's presidency.
BTW, I would have never have imagined a light bulb to have so many uses.
I wish we could just discuss something along the lines of vicente fox's presidency.
I was not aware that we were, other than your reference to wirenuts.
Everything I mentioned to you is available on websites, including a lot of soldering information. However, reliance on audio forums for your soldering information is a very mixed bag, as hobbyists can be led so astray by wannabe experts in soldering.
I've been at this soldering game for a very long time. So much so that I seldom have to refer to source for information. And sometimes I am the source.
Others here (this forum) are really good with the chemistry of fluxes, as well as techniques used for soldering, so you should ask questions you may have here.
And, it would pay to be less trigger happy when something told to you here is not in agreement with preconceived notions, as there is a good chance they are correct.
John
Not really.
What rellik refers to is the difficulty that many diy'ers have soldering with the lead free options. Lead content solders and compatible fluxes have matured over the last 2 thousand years, lead free has not.
The ROHS mandate has forced so many to re-learn soldering. In that learning curve is the higher temp fluxes, the damage to plastics due to the higher temps, and relevant tip temperatures and tip mass vs item being soldered size.
If I had to learn soldering on some arbitrary audio forum websites, I too would be very frustrated.
As it is, I had to develop tin/silver eutectic soldering methods and materials because of the fear that the lead in the mix would become superconducting at 4.5 Kelvin, and the current density of the 7000 amp lap joints would vary depending on the solder grain constituents. In addition, tin/silver is a stronger alloy that doesn't creep like lead/tin.
It also required tremendous attention to cleaning details, as I could only use R type flux. The halides in normal fluxes will attack all the parts in the machine, so could not be used.
John
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Personally, I prefer leaded solder SN-62, or the equivalent Cardas. I stay away from lead free when possible. Why make soldering more difficult?
I think so; and a comfy chair.billshurv said:
This point in the thread reminds me of an incident in a pub many years ago. I had a colleague who was quite clever at IT, but thought himself clever in all technical matters. He would hold forth on all sorts of issues, sometimes talking sense but sometimes talking complete nonsense, and would never notice if his audience was getting bored. On this particular day we had been joined by an ex-colleague who had started another career. My colleague started to give the ex-colleague the benefit of his knowledge of aviation (no practical experience, of course, except as a passenger). I happened to know that our ex-colleague had held a private pilot's licence for many years, and when he left us it was to pursue a new career as an airline pilot. I said nothing and just listened!
I'm with you on that one, for my own use... For the day job there is no choice unfortunately!
You come across many on the internet who claim to be experts. What is nice here is that there are some real, proper, piled high and deep bleeding edge guys. The challenge can be spotting them before one puts both feet in ones mouth, something I have done on occasion.
Except you have to use lead free in commercial audio gear as has everyone else since 2006..... Yes the change from lead to lead free has had its ups and downs, but most electronics now are lead free...
I personally would have liked to see solder left out of RoHS, leaded solder is much better....
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I liked RoHS when it came in.
It allowed my to buy 50 non-RoHS compliant OPA2134 for £0.73 each. ;-)
It allowed my to buy 50 non-RoHS compliant OPA2134 for £0.73 each. ;-)
Now you know how industrial grade acetic acid is manufactured. In vivo....
Holy smell man...that isnt going to just wash off. At least you are not hung over or running around high tracing power lines to solder.
Seriously, some people will go to extents to just copy what others tell/teach them not to do and prove it through example.
Seems like another one gets added to the darwin awards list....
Holy smell man...that isnt going to just wash off. At least you are not hung over or running around high tracing power lines to solder.
Seriously, some people will go to extents to just copy what others tell/teach them not to do and prove it through example.
Seems like another one gets added to the darwin awards list....
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"some people will go to extents to just copy what others tell/teach them not to do and prove it through example"
That knocks the whole of the education system for six, doesn't it?
A long tough learning curve to attain anything. Do it all again from scratch.
That knocks the whole of the education system for six, doesn't it?
A long tough learning curve to attain anything. Do it all again from scratch.
Soldering with lead free is by no means difficult. Are you having difficulties I could help you with?
John
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