I think it was some time in the late 80s, when interconnects and speaker cables and power cords started to appear with these strange "boxes" at onened. The old, then serious danish mag High Fidelity had one of tehse X-rayed....
guess what was inside ????
guess what was inside ????
The internet does not disappoint. Here are some pics of the guts of an older MIT device:
MIT Speaker Cable - Album on Imgur
I marvel at the precision of this amazing device!
Cheers.
ZAP
MIT Speaker Cable - Album on Imgur
I marvel at the precision of this amazing device!
Cheers.
ZAP
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Afaik, some of the earlier MIT stuff had zobel comp networks in the end boxes.
I didn't bother to read all the guff....... I got bamboozled in the quote I posted.
So what are they claiming ?, is it switch variable damping networks for LMH, and what do they claim their buggery boxes are worth.
Cool product to come up with actually.......Endless OCD tuning/tweaking fun, think of these as taxing the overly wealthy, and they sure would look impressive on the carpet near to the speakers.
I didn't bother to read all the guff....... I got bamboozled in the quote I posted.
So what are they claiming ?, is it switch variable damping networks for LMH, and what do they claim their buggery boxes are worth.
Cool product to come up with actually.......Endless OCD tuning/tweaking fun, think of these as taxing the overly wealthy, and they sure would look impressive on the carpet near to the speakers.

Audio Critic cut open the boxes in one of the earlier models. I'll leave it to you to guess what was in there.
A few guesses, in no particular order:
1. Unicorn poop
2. Flux capacitor
3. Prius brakes
4. A post-it note reading, "Thanks for helping put my kids through college, SUCKER!!"
4. A post-it note reading, "Thanks for helping put my kids through college, SUCKER!!"
LOL! I needed that laugh 😉
The internet does not disappoint. Here are some pics of the guts of an older MIT device:
MIT Speaker Cable - Album on Imgur
Hey! Looks like that really could be unicorn poop in there.
Hey! Looks like that really could be unicorn poop in there.
looks more like other sorts of dried secretions...
I just saw an add for Lab 47 pig skin and deer skin turntable mats. This is, to me, way beyond snake oil. What is next, dog ear skins, remember RCA's label, or elephant ear skin ?
I didn't bother to read all the guff.......
Dan you need to stop saying you don't read the boilerplate and admit these folks are just plain and simple frauds, liars, etc. that includes Bybee.
I'm just curious to know, apart form the CNC billet casings, what they are charging some crazy amount for.
I'm out working the local Iron Maiden show today/tonight, so too hard/time to read on my phone, will take a closer look later.
Guff can be interesting if you read between the lines.
Some of these products do work, the issue is the claimed level of efficacy and the price.
That Twisted Pair Swedish acid/mushroom day trippers site is actually interesting.... those guys are toward a right direction but not quite understanding what they are doing.
Dan.
I'm out working the local Iron Maiden show today/tonight, so too hard/time to read on my phone, will take a closer look later.
Guff can be interesting if you read between the lines.
Some of these products do work, the issue is the claimed level of efficacy and the price.
That Twisted Pair Swedish acid/mushroom day trippers site is actually interesting.... those guys are toward a right direction but not quite understanding what they are doing.
Dan.
I find much of this very disturbing. It's like running into a homeless person who's having a loud argument with an invisible opponent.
When that happens, there is a sense of sorrow and compassion for this unfortunate human being, mixed with dread at their current condition. Encountering someone who has become mentally ill and lost touch with reality is always disturbing.
To believe any of the garbage served up by Coconut Audio and so on, a person would have to be actually, literally, medically insane, in the sense of experiencing (auditory) hallucinations, believing total nonsense, and completely losing touch with all common sense and reason.
To my misfortune, I have been around a few people with bipolar disorder (manic depressive), and one who had been diagnosed with full-blown schizophrenia. When the illness is in control, people with those mental illnesses tend to believe in non-existent things, become hugely emotionally invested in things that appear quite inconsequential to the normal mind, make utterly nonsensical connections between totally unrelated things, and so on.
That's why even reading some of this stuff gives me the heeby-jeebies. There is a whiff of serious mental health problems in the air, and I feel the same mixture of sorrow, compassion, and dread for the afflicted.
-Gnobuddy
When that happens, there is a sense of sorrow and compassion for this unfortunate human being, mixed with dread at their current condition. Encountering someone who has become mentally ill and lost touch with reality is always disturbing.
To believe any of the garbage served up by Coconut Audio and so on, a person would have to be actually, literally, medically insane, in the sense of experiencing (auditory) hallucinations, believing total nonsense, and completely losing touch with all common sense and reason.
To my misfortune, I have been around a few people with bipolar disorder (manic depressive), and one who had been diagnosed with full-blown schizophrenia. When the illness is in control, people with those mental illnesses tend to believe in non-existent things, become hugely emotionally invested in things that appear quite inconsequential to the normal mind, make utterly nonsensical connections between totally unrelated things, and so on.
That's why even reading some of this stuff gives me the heeby-jeebies. There is a whiff of serious mental health problems in the air, and I feel the same mixture of sorrow, compassion, and dread for the afflicted.
-Gnobuddy
That's why even reading some of this stuff gives me the heeby-jeebies. There is a whiff of serious mental health problems in the air, and I feel the same mixture of sorrow, compassion, and dread for the afflicted.
Not to make light of any genuinely serious disorders, but the Coconut guys do feature a large mushroom prominently on their page. 😉 I tend to think, in this case at least, that the reality breaks may be artificially induced. (And yes, I know too much mushroom fun is not always healthy either.)
I go through phases with my reactions to this stuff. One day it makes me laugh, the next it just depresses me, the next it makes me angry. Reflects what I'm dealing with in my own little existence on any given day, I suppose. But it always reminds me that even a healthy, "rational" human brain can be programmed to believe any damned thing, no matter how preposterous. I try not to think about that too much.
-- Jim (now playing: Jeff Beck, There and Back)
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Cables are where the money is, nowhere else can you make such huge margins. The amount of collective misinformation out there is staggering and most purchasers don't know fact from fiction.
Not to make light of any genuinely serious disorders, but the Coconut guys do feature a large mushroom prominently on their page. 😉
I believe the mushroom is not of the entertainment variety, rather one of these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_verna
I believe the mushroom is not of the entertainment variety, rather one of these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_verna
Oh dear, that one's no fun at all. Pretty cool looking, though.
-- Jim (now playing: Rick Derringer, Guitars and Women)
Your post perfectly encapsulated much of my own thoughts on this entire subject....Reflects what I'm dealing with in my own little existence on any given day, I suppose. But it always reminds me that even a healthy, "rational" human brain can be programmed to believe any damned thing, no matter how preposterous. I try not to think about that too much.
I have often felt that the scientific method is one of the most amazing of human inventions, because it allows the crazy, irrational, "normal" human mind to transcend many of it's limitations, and somehow find it's way closer to reality. A good experiment can blow our most cherished beliefs and thoughts out of the water, and though painful to the ego, bring us back to reality.
I could conceivably be programmed to believe a $10,000 audio amp sounded better than the $20 Yamaha RX-360 receiver I just found at a thrift store, but injecting an audio signal, subtracting the two output signals, and looking at just how far below audibility the resulting residual signal is, would quickly eliminate the programming and bring me back to reality.
Unfortunately, it turns out many people can be programmed to reject the scientific method, and at that point, all hope for reason winning out over delusion is lost.

-Gnobuddy
I find much of this very disturbing. It's like running into a homeless person who's having a loud argument with an invisible opponent.
When that happens, there is a sense of sorrow and compassion for this unfortunate human being, mixed with dread at their current condition. Encountering someone who has become mentally ill and lost touch with reality is always disturbing.
To believe any of the garbage served up by Coconut Audio and so on, a person would have to be actually, literally, medically insane, in the sense of experiencing (auditory) hallucinations, believing total nonsense, and completely losing touch with all common sense and reason.
To my misfortune, I have been around a few people with bipolar disorder (manic depressive), and one who had been diagnosed with full-blown schizophrenia. When the illness is in control, people with those mental illnesses tend to believe in non-existent things, become hugely emotionally invested in things that appear quite inconsequential to the normal mind, make utterly nonsensical connections between totally unrelated things, and so on.
That's why even reading some of this stuff gives me the heeby-jeebies. There is a whiff of serious mental health problems in the air, and I feel the same mixture of sorrow, compassion, and dread for the afflicted.
-Gnobuddy
However the people who buy $1000 audio tweak are wayyyyyyyyyyyy richer than you and me. So somehow they command a lucrative career despite we thinking they are morons. I can't bring myself to be sorry. More of seeing this as nature's way of redistributing wealth from people who don't deserve them. "How about that $5000 Bose system for you sir?"
That's far from the only possibility. What if they're (literally) of unsound mind, and simply charge the $1000 to a credit card that they can never afford to pay off? There are plenty of nominally sane people deep in debt beyond their means, never mind people who are actually mentally ill.However the people who buy $1000 audio tweak are wayyyyyyyyyyyy richer than you and me. So somehow they command a lucrative career
You and I would spend $1000 or more on something if we think it's really essential - say, on rent, or mortgage, or fixing our car that we needed to get to work. Well, if a person is mentally unwell, and becomes convinced that a $1000 cable is really essential, he/she (almost always a "he") might very well spend it, for the same reason: to that person, this is an essential purchase.
-Gnobuddy
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