I agree. Some people can write readable, and hence maintainable, code and others cannot. I once knew someone (a keen amateur chess player) whose code, even when it worked correctly, simply could not be read by anyone with less ability to cope with complexity than him. He would never use one loop where three would do.fas42 said:
Our bosses were always on the lookout for some smart methodology which would make coding the quick and easy task they secretly believed it to be. They never found one. The best that was achieved was that using a 'method' delivered working code at about the same rate as a good programmer could do it - but the code was harder to understand and hence harder to maintain. These methods usually work by just moving the creative part of the job to earlier in the project - instead of getting the coding right you instead had to get the requirements spec right, but the end user can be equally baffled either way.
An oldie but a goodie:
The Mythical Man-Month
I always think of the cover illustration of the La Brea Tar Pits when the discussion turns to managing software development.
The Mythical Man-Month
I always think of the cover illustration of the La Brea Tar Pits when the discussion turns to managing software development.
When I was coding assembly for an early NATO air defense missile system, we would say that we would blindly trust a piece of software under three conditions:
1 - It was written by myself;
2 - Had no more than 2 lines of code;
3 - Had been running 10 years with no bugs detected.
Still a bit daring I guess 😀
Jan
1 - It was written by myself;
2 - Had no more than 2 lines of code;
3 - Had been running 10 years with no bugs detected.
Still a bit daring I guess 😀
Jan
Anybody with an ounce of integrity would have taken offence by now, but you can't afford to do that because it might mean breaking off the conversation. It's all water off a duck's back as far as you're concerned, isn't it?
You're generating a lot of bad karma, Frank, I wouldn't like to be in your shoes when the chickens come home to roost.
You're generating a lot of bad karma, Frank, I wouldn't like to be in your shoes when the chickens come home to roost.
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I remember a training session given by a very good programmer. He said, "I don't even trust myself to write a large, complex program to work perfectly. They all leak SOMETHING. That's why we wrote it to restart itself periodically."
This really strikes me as unnecessarily mean-spirited and over-the-top. If Frank's posts bother you that much, just put him on ignore.
I've tried doing that (the ignore thing) but there are so many messages that it leaves gaping holes in the thread making it almost unreadable.
What you fail to appreciate, Cliff, is that those holes are empty whether you ignore them or not.
Last throw of the dice, 😀 ... modern fighter jets use computing programs to run things, I guess a bit of money would be thrown at the problem of making them work "properly" - rather important in the "heat of the battle", 😉. But guess what ... these programs do crash - so what the pilot has is a big, red button he can push to reboot, restart the program - which happens extremely quickly - so that he doesn't get shot down while his plane is in nowhere land ... 😎
erm fighter jets have dozens of independent systems. Which one are you talking about resetting? I can't speak for the F-22 but i know a few things about the Typhoon from my days in aerospace.
Hypertac connectors Hyperboloid contact technology with the companies that used fischer or lemo connectors why has no one used these. Proper mil-spec 🙂
Hypertac connectors Hyperboloid contact technology with the companies that used fischer or lemo connectors why has no one used these. Proper mil-spec 🙂
There's a lot of fraud going on in audio. That's what this thread is about. Nobody seriously denies that.
Some people are facilitating that. Some people in this thread are contributing to the disinformation that enables fraud. Often for no more than momentary entertainment or ego gratification. It's easy to understand that some are driven by money, but in some cases it's no more than mischief-making, a kind of vandalism.
Admittedly there are those acting as repeaters who are merely gulls, but some act in full consciousness of what they do, to the extent that sociopaths are capable of being fully conscious.
Oh, I meant to tell a funny snake oil. Have you seen the thread about the tube voltage reg. for driving TT motors?
...sorry, I just realised it's not that funny.
Some people are facilitating that. Some people in this thread are contributing to the disinformation that enables fraud. Often for no more than momentary entertainment or ego gratification. It's easy to understand that some are driven by money, but in some cases it's no more than mischief-making, a kind of vandalism.
Admittedly there are those acting as repeaters who are merely gulls, but some act in full consciousness of what they do, to the extent that sociopaths are capable of being fully conscious.
Oh, I meant to tell a funny snake oil. Have you seen the thread about the tube voltage reg. for driving TT motors?
...sorry, I just realised it's not that funny.
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Something I read years ago, in an article on program fragility - from (a dull) memory it was the weapons targeting system ...
My friend, there is a lot of fraud - in life generally ... just go to someone who advises you on how to invest your money ... 😉
If the audio community got its finger out, and put some effort into understanding what's going on in some of these behaviours - then a huge amount of that "fraud" would go away ...
"What are we going to do about all these terrible Al Capone gangsters, terrorising society, sir? ... Well, you could consider not banning liquor ... "
I think just plain ignorance is the key. Remember trolls ruined the first incarnation of the internet. Via e-lists I could talk to top scientists at JPL, NOAA, NIH, NIST, etc. At first 10 maybe 20 intelligent exchanges a day, then the idiots started asking questions with obvious ignorance of the basics demanding help for their problems and the whole thing just faded into what we have now after everyone else got disgusted.
I think we have to be inventive and proactive. SY pointed out an interesting behaviour, the Help Vampire. I suspect some kind of folk-knowledge will emerge in time where people learn to make these (social) systems work better for us.
You have to forgive me, I kind of think you get what you imagine, so I'm always trying to imagine positive outcomes.
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