Funniest snake oil theories

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Mitchell I love your signature


A few months back, in another thread, I strung together similar nonsense and had several people very excited.

I remember that

This was a nice bit of parody. Full-on Poe's Law.

I agree

Or someone with a sense of humor.

Why am I certain that these guys don’t look like you, don’t think like you and are not interested to investigate for intellectual purposes the applicability of Poe’s law like you ? (there should be a row of 😀 here)

George
 
The sad fact is that even though this is an April 1st prank, it is indistinguishable from the real thing (Exotic audiophile advertising)...🙂

I had a look on all their other pages. These were serious, technical, professional.
If I was living around Chicago, I would pay a visit to them to find out myself if these people have indeed that sense of humour.



It seems to work for him and his tv.

Mitchell
I guess he forgot to mention that he is cleaning the internals of the TV regularly.
With time (one-two years) most of the CRT TVs (and PC monitors) develop a carpet of dust over the psu and HT components:
1. Components die from overheating. On occasion, dirt overheats to the point of catching fire.
2. With a bit of moisture, unintended electric conduction paths develop across the dirt and shorts occur.
When the apparatus is in stand by, the reduced heating that is continuously generated keeps the dirt dry, making the short occurrences less frequent.

George
 

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From the page:
"Element Tungsten is the first power cord in our new Element Series to feature tungsten in the signal path, and is the first power cord in the world to use pure tungsten as a conductor."

A power cord in the signal path?

Which signal? Are they playing back mains hum?
 
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A power cord in the signal path?

Which signal? Are they playing back mains hum?

It signals inappropriate use of a material.
Tungsten alloys may be good for transitor contacts, maybe even for wall plug tines, but at only 28% of silver's conductiveness, not to mention being kind of brittle, it seems foolish to use this in a cable.

I guess saying -we made copper cable of more than adequate gauge to handle the anticipated current draw; there's no magic geometry involved, no magic powders, we just insulated it well, shielded it, and used dependable terminations- would be a dull ad, and a tough sell.

At least they didn't use quantum differential Higgs compensated Tungsten.
 
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From the page:
"Element Tungsten is the first power cord in our new Element Series to feature tungsten in the signal path, and is the first power cord in the world to use pure tungsten as a conductor."

A power cord in the signal path?

Which signal? Are they playing back mains hum?
An obvious fallacy invoked by many is to say that, say, a capacitor "is not in the signal path" in an amplifier - if it's part of the circuit then it may have impact on the accuracy of the unit. Thus, any element that forms part of the electrical structure of the circuit can have impact - the mere fact that it is external to the physical box is neither here nor there; on a Spice simulation the "power cord" can be a part, with electrical properties, and have an impact, no matter how seemingly minor ...

The way to "get around that" is to block, or filter out everything "bad" that can result from, or be carried through by the cord - if that is done properly then there is nothing more to worry about in this area.
 
Hi,

The way to "get around that" is to block, or filter out everything "bad" that can result from, or be carried through by the cord - if that is done properly then there is nothing more to worry about in this area.

Further to that, if you don't take care of the power feed you can be sure that once your system is of high enough resolution, pretty much everything becomes audible.
Hence, it's better to feed the electronics with as clean a supply as possible or else you'll never stop wondering why your system does not sound the same as yesterday or a few hours ago for that matter.

Cheers, 😉
 
Recently i had an experiement with interconnect made out of silicon hose filled with water with addition of various stuff to improve it's cunductivity.
It sounded surprisingly ok in midrange, even bass, but highs was strongly (a very-very noticeably) rolled-off.
The cable had very high resistance though, but worked still. I'm surprised no one tried to make&sell "liquid" cables yet 🙂

P.S. don't get me wrong though - i belive/know cables "sound" different and spent years trying to get rid of it (or find absolute sonicaly transparent conductors). So far i'm happy with solid silver in all my cables which has least signature/effect on sound, but at least it has science behind it...not sure same can be said about tungsten :/ Probably something like graphite cable (which i tried too btw)
 
Hi,

I'm surprised no one tried to make&sell "liquid" cables yet

That has been done before. Mercury no less....😱

So far i'm happy with solid silver in all my cables which has least signature/effect on sound, but at least it has science behind it...

High purity (4 nines) solid core silver wire here too. Not sure it has no signature but it sure sounds fast and coherent across the audio range.
Some claim gold wires sound even better....(Even though it's not the best conductor of the two).

Cheers, 😉
 
I haven't looked at that forum for months - will have a look at what Roger is getting at in the thread. The problem is, when fiddling and altering things, the sound will change for non-obvious reasons at times - it can be very hard to track down the true cause and effect linkage; I've had bouts of severe frustration over the years trying to establish "what's going on!!?" ...

Sometimes, you leave well enough alone with a bit of "silliness" in place - something "dumb" is making the system sound better, so you leave it there in the meantime; somewhere down the track you can establish what the true behaviour mechanism is ... I don't believe in "hair-shirtism" - only having things in place that I 100% understand, and suffering the consequences of poorer SQ because of that attitude ...

Edit: I note you carefully left out Roger's next sentence - "I may be wrong if there is a scientific audio measurement that will quantify this please enlighten me." ... don't want to put the poor blighter in a good light at all, do we now ... 😛 ?
 
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A nice variation on "the wife in the kitchen" anecdote, from Roger:

The NR experiment is finished and a complete success,the noise barrier has been broken. At my normal listening level,my brother sitting in the kitchen asks me "what is that,somebody taking a shower"? I answered no that's tape hiss! FM Acoustics....eat your heart out..
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ROTFLMAO

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