Some Behringer stuff may not be bad. When I talked with two different Behringer reps, they both told me the stuff sucks, and getting any replacement parts for a repair was impossible. Check out this page I created about some of their design flaws in the DCX and the DEQ2496:
Bob's Behringer mod
Thanks. We also have Jan's comments. Maybe I can tune up my DXC so I only hate it. I have kept my paws out of it as I don't have a USB-microscope yet to deal with the SMD.
Behringer is building exactly what the price point says, but some of these flaws are inexcusable. The level of HUM would make the DCX un-usable for anything more than a garage band. It's turn on and turn off noise make it un-usable in a home. I tried to put just enough filters in it to deal with my sub, and it was out of memory. RS232 in today's world? Give me a freeking break.
They are cheap. Really cheap. Though the DBX analog crossover is not really any better than the Behringer. I would not worry about repair. They are at a throw away price point. Two way shipping, and just the overhead for repair makes most of their stuff BER. Their market is semi-pro and garage bands. You know, really poor people. I don't blame them for serving their market. I blame them for design as that is a low one time cost.
Either that or just e-bay the thing.
I've seen that Coconut Audio crapola before. Only the really brain dead would fall for that. That Chesse guy must be his USA distributor.
David, it's a parody.
It's a labor of love for Jack. He made his fortune outside of audio.
This somehow seems perverse, who wouldn't love money for nothing.
I haven't looked, but the DBX unit may have a better analog section than the Behringer. The time it took to mod the Behringer isn't worth it. Plus I had to be VERY delicate lifting the ADC and DAC, SMD pins off the circuit board so I could solder tiny wires to them, which then had to be physically buffered. Should have been a neuro surgeon, but noooooo, I had to go the electronic route... Anyway, not recommended. My I/O board was intermittent, so I was already faced with that. New I/O boards weren't available. So I fixed it best I could.
I don't know anything about what Behringer does in the digital domain, such as over sampling. I do know that most downstream amps cannot handle Rf or digital noise elegantly, so puting a passive Rf filter at the output of any DAC never hurts, in my opinion.
I don't know anything about what Behringer does in the digital domain, such as over sampling. I do know that most downstream amps cannot handle Rf or digital noise elegantly, so puting a passive Rf filter at the output of any DAC never hurts, in my opinion.
Jack likes to be paid for his labor, but not excessively. Just for his time and effort, and the raw materials that he puts into his stuff. He just does NOT SKIMP on quality materials or avoid exotic physical concepts. Speaking of that, I am sending that new version of electricity transmission to him. It isn't much different than what we have always known, but it is put in a more popular format.
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Come on guys, just listen, and ignore the salesman. It's easy.
Was listening to a several thousand $ full range augmented by woofers one brand system.The salesman, who refused to back off the volume, yelled that it was amazing how bright a system could be and still remain musical.
Fled the room followed by his laughter after I said I'd built and sold speakers to my friends while in high school and I could probably do better myself.
5 years and 39 pairs of mostly all different designs sold later , I'm still learning and having fun with it as a casual side job.
Salesman aside, I gotta agree with that great American who said "if you think you can, or if you think you can't - you're right".
It's a labor of love for Jack. He made his fortune outside of audio.
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Jack likes to be paid for his labor, but not excessively. Just for his time and effort, and the raw materials that he puts into his stuff. He just does NOT SKIMP on quality materials or avoid exotic physical concepts. Speaking of that, I am sending that new version of electricity transmission to him. It isn't much different than what we have always known, but it is put in a more popular format.
Nope only the best Digikey 25c resistors will do🙂
That is not true marce, I have seen Jack's resistors and they do not come from Digikey or any other usual source.
David, it's a parody.
Is it?
I mean, it's hard to tell. How much trouble would one guy go through just to create a Snake oil Audiophile parody?
Maybe it's because he's Swedish and has nothing to do.
Is it?
I mean, it's hard to tell. How much trouble would one guy go through just to create a Snake oil Audiophile parody?
Maybe it's because he's Swedish and has nothing to do.
Could be. This is a couple days of work, not much more. Most of the elements are pre-packaged, very little code writing to tie it together.
Maybe it's because he's Swedish.
Huh, what is that suppose to mean? 😉
That is not true marce, I have seen Jack's resistors and they do not come from Digikey or any other usual source.
make my day where! 'Top Secret Supplies R Us' who deal with only ITAR registered companies and moonlighting Audio designers😀
of course the rest of the electronics world seems to do OK from the usual sources

Misconceptions described in a popular form are still misconceptions. Every few years someone 'rediscovers' that electromagnetic energy does not travel through the wires but through the space around/between them. This usually happens when they hear about the Poynting vector, but completely misunderstand it. Some EEs have even built a career on misunderstanding the Poynting vector!john curl said:Speaking of that, I am sending that new version of electricity transmission to him. It isn't much different than what we have always known, but it is put in a more popular format.
The Poynting vector does not tell you where the energy flows. The surface integral of the Poynting vector over a closed surface gives you the total energy flow through that surface; that is all that Mr. Poynting claimed in his conjecture. These two statements may seem equivalent, but they are not.
Huh, what is that suppose to mean? 😉
You're coconut audio aren't you?! 😱
They seek him here, they seek him there, those audiophiles seek him everywhere.
Is he a Genius, or is he a Dick, that damned elusive Patrick.
Is he a Genius, or is he a Dick, that damned elusive Patrick.
If the source and load are low impedance, and the line is high, the system settling time will be far longer than one transit time. It can climb into the realm of audibility.Cable Impedance: If you go high enough in frequency, a cable becomes analagous to an acoustic chamber. It gets to where you have to feed a cable that has a certain "characteristic impedance" (75 ohm for example) with the same source impedance (75 ohm), and terminate the cable at the other end with the same impedance (75 ohm). If you don't set it up that way, there will be reflections of the signal in the cable. Video processing equipment and digital circuitry has no choice but to deal with this rather accurately, or it's a disaster. Many runs on a computer circuit board are designed to have a certain "characteristic impedance" that works with the source and load impedance so it can move data at the fastest possible speed without mis-communication. Luckily this only applies to energies above hundreds of kHZ, from my experience anyway.
Some EEs have even built a career on misunderstanding the Poynting vector!
As has some physicists...
badaboom..😛
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