And all largely irrelevant. All that is required of a short audio wire metal is that it has sufficiently low and linear conductance that its resistance forms a negligible part of the potential divider formed by the source impedance and load impedance. In addition, it must not corrode too easily and be reasonably rigid but not too rigid. And reasonably cheap.210 said:It's maybe just an uncorrelated undisturbed superposition
of electron density, electron mobility and signal transfer.
On track when he remembered things back to front?
Have I slipped down through the hole into Alice's world again? The world where audio signals don't obey circuit theory, where some components can distinguish signal from noise, and simple potential dividers don't simply divide potential any more?
Have I slipped down through the hole into Alice's world again? The world where audio signals don't obey circuit theory, where some components can distinguish signal from noise, and simple potential dividers don't simply divide potential any more?
No, you're just not a True Believer who needs encouragement to keep believing, and thus you are not the intended target of that message.
I thought this thread was supposed to be poking fun at snake oil, not encouraging it. Of course, in Alice's world snake oil is good and people poke fun at Mr. Thevenin and his friends.
Snake oil exists because the active ingredient within has not been isolated, identified. Once that's done the reason for the stuff getting any airplay vanishes, as do the ripoff merchants.
Medicine has been using that technique for a long, long time ...
Medicine has been using that technique for a long, long time ...
Right material, wrong application
It works even better if you smear it all over your head to remove the louse-y sound effects
No more nit picking about what can and cannot be heard after such an application... 🙂
John L.
Last occasion I took on a bet to devour 1/4gal of mayo in one go for a buck, it worked all too well.
It works even better if you smear it all over your head to remove the louse-y sound effects
No more nit picking about what can and cannot be heard after such an application... 🙂
John L.
About snake oil. Users might stop using due to newly acquired knowledge. Purveyors might stop purveying due to newly acquired mirrors.
You mean just like homeopathy?fas42 said:Snake oil exists because the active ingredient within has not been isolated, identified.
No, talking about the real deal stuff - jungle medicines with "heap big powers", where it turns out there are chemicals within that 'really do things' ...
A lot of the weirdo audio stuff is about playing games with the distortion spectrum, just keep altering and adjusting that to give you a flavour that suits. But, there are instances where there are very positive benefits, buried under the overcooked hype - strip away the useless layers and explanations to discover that which is useful ...
A lot of the weirdo audio stuff is about playing games with the distortion spectrum, just keep altering and adjusting that to give you a flavour that suits. But, there are instances where there are very positive benefits, buried under the overcooked hype - strip away the useless layers and explanations to discover that which is useful ...
Snake oil exists because the active ingredient within has not been isolated, identified.
The assumption that there is an 'active ingredient', is another lame excuse in defense of snake oil items.
Why do 'they' strive for a perfectly linear amplifier when our hearing is logarithmic?
See a phon chart.
Why do 'they' strive for a perfectly linear amplifier when our hearing is logarithmic?
Because the perfect linear amplifier is used to perfectly linearly reproduce the original sound field?
jan
Yup, the key is that reltively small changes in distortion spectrum can make relatively large subjective changes.....audio stuff is about playing games with the distortion spectrum, just keep altering and adjusting that to give you a flavour that suits.
Whether these changes are subjective improvements is another matter.
Dan.
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The point is not to 'defend' them, but to understand why some of them have an effect, hopefully beneficial, for some listeners.The assumption that there is an 'active ingredient', is another lame excuse in defense of snake oil items.
I've heard things used which move the sound 'sideways' - it changes what I hear, but doesn't improve it - these are of little value ...
some of them have an effect, hopefully beneficial, for some listeners.
That classifies as a defense.
Unconditional denial of placebo effects is not smart, rather unsmart instead.
So neither of you can give any theories as to why putting bits of wood under your cable improves the sound (why do theses mods always improve the sound), so we will have to consult the Wizards at the Unseen University because obviously magic is involved.
It should be obvious -> When the cables are "lifted" they are surrounded by air instead of an another kind of material with other properties than air.
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