Since you know very well that this is untrue, why do you feel the need to say that?
No one has ever said that, either.
It's better to engage actual arguments with what other people say than it it is to argue with what the voices in your head seem to say.
Thank you for returning to the topic of this thread, snake oil.
What is the value of snake oil? How much monitary churn does it provide. Is it the duty to remove excess capital lfrom where is sits and re-insert it into the econnomy? Taking one step past the old phrase " A fool and his money will soon be departed" to is it our obligation?
What value does the fool get? Is the ego trip or bragging rights worth the cost?
Is any food comming out of babies mouths to buy wood risers, uobtanium banana plugs, " audio grade" power plugs etc? I happly bought a pet rock many years ago. The entertainment value was worth the low cost. It was not snake oil though as it did not claim to be anything other than a joke.
If it is a sharks obligation to feed, I guess it remains out obliglation to catch and eat sharks.
What value does the fool get? Is the ego trip or bragging rights worth the cost?
Is any food comming out of babies mouths to buy wood risers, uobtanium banana plugs, " audio grade" power plugs etc? I happly bought a pet rock many years ago. The entertainment value was worth the low cost. It was not snake oil though as it did not claim to be anything other than a joke.
If it is a sharks obligation to feed, I guess it remains out obliglation to catch and eat sharks.
How does static affect such a low impedance path as a speaker cable?
Telling people to buy cheap wooden blocks is brilliant marketing, as it simultaneously reinforces belief in the concept and trust in the marketeer. That makes it easier to sell into the 'upgrade' market a few years on.
Telling people to buy cheap wooden blocks is brilliant marketing, as it simultaneously reinforces belief in the concept and trust in the marketeer. That makes it easier to sell into the 'upgrade' market a few years on.
I have to toss in the flag here. Yes Frank, there are real properties measurable in a labratory (John lives right next to LBL). But the engieering side of me has to raise the flag on revelance. If the interaction between the speaker cable and the floor is causing .00000001 % iteraction, why are we worried about it when the air presure, humiidity, and temperature will effect the drivers by 10,000 times as much. It is the wrong problem to be worring about. Still worried about it? Move the amp closer!
What type floors do the wooden blocks work with?
Do wooden blocks work on wooden floors, and if so does it matter if they are hardwood (predominately Oak in the USA), or softwood like White Pine floors in the 'Old South'?
Concrete with tile or linoleum, as in a lot of High Rise apartments and basements, or slab floors like they use in Texas?
Or is the phenomenon independent of floor type and proximity to the ground level?
Certainly if the phenomenon is real, some one must have isolated the contributing factors or there is no hope of ever determining the root cause.
Do wooden blocks work on wooden floors, and if so does it matter if they are hardwood (predominately Oak in the USA), or softwood like White Pine floors in the 'Old South'?
Concrete with tile or linoleum, as in a lot of High Rise apartments and basements, or slab floors like they use in Texas?
Or is the phenomenon independent of floor type and proximity to the ground level?
Certainly if the phenomenon is real, some one must have isolated the contributing factors or there is no hope of ever determining the root cause.
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I would like to know the answer as much as any technically orientated person would - but, to date, I don't. The important point is that the effect is there - I can hear it, and playing silly games of pretending it's my imagination, wishful thinking, etc, won't make it go away. So, deal with it now, in simple, cost effective ways -- down the track an understanding will emerge, a rational explanation of the linkage will be found ...
Remove your floor🙂
Problem solved.
The theory is as far as I have been able to assert, is that with the wire on blocks you remove the floors dielectric influence on the signals waveforms, instead of having to travel through half floor/half air (after the cables insulation) the signal travels through air all the way round, so the type of floor is important! Of course as this has an effect of .00000001 % as pointed out, but every little thing is critical in getting the perfect sound.
Problem solved.
The theory is as far as I have been able to assert, is that with the wire on blocks you remove the floors dielectric influence on the signals waveforms, instead of having to travel through half floor/half air (after the cables insulation) the signal travels through air all the way round, so the type of floor is important! Of course as this has an effect of .00000001 % as pointed out, but every little thing is critical in getting the perfect sound.
Unfortunately, it is the 'right' problem ... it's worse for digital playback, and exacerbates the SQ issues that CDs have been notorious for - dull, flat, grey, uninteresting, lifeless, are the adjectives one can use to describe the sound 'infected' by this artifact ...
I've always seen it as a static issue - I've never used blocks or other items as spacers, just altered the materials which are in direct contact with each other.
The audible effect is, to pull a figure out of the air 🙂, a guesstimate, of the order of 0.1% ...
Static! to create a static charge wouldn't the cable have to move, and the outer coating be trib...and the floor be carpeted with a carpet made of man made materials and and and....
What I quoted was from some mag where they interviewed this dude who had his speaker cables supported on plastic cups (very expensive system and cables).
What I quoted was from some mag where they interviewed this dude who had his speaker cables supported on plastic cups (very expensive system and cables).
You must be listening to 'The Smiths'
😀
Come round my Gaff, I have some lively engaging digital music you can listen to.
A very kind offer, good sir, 😎 ... now, all I need to do is work out the logistics of popping across an ocean, or continent, or two, in a twinkling of an eye ...
'bout static ... strange stuff, this - just touching materials will do it, and of course there's vibration from the speakers adding to the mix.
'bout static ... strange stuff, this - just touching materials will do it, and of course there's vibration from the speakers adding to the mix.
No. The return is running in the same coil next to the signal, so equal currents are running in opposite directions through the coil. Therefore, the magnetic fields cancel out and it will not function as an inductor.
Holes stay in the transistors. It is just the bad electrons we are dealing with here.
The electrons do like comfortable holes to live in while the amplifier is switched off though.
Cable spacer questions.
First is the capacitance between the cable and the floor going to be significant when compared with the tone correction in the amplifier?
Is raising the cable off the floor going to allow it to pick up radiation from a local radio station and if so is this not going to be worse than the capacitance between the floor and the cable?
How much capacitance is there between the cores of the cable and is this not going to be much greater than the capacitance between the cable and the floor?
If I fitted spacers they would be parts from a model railway set sold to construct a model power stations at the track side.
Yes indeed model pylons would make a much better talking point.
First is the capacitance between the cable and the floor going to be significant when compared with the tone correction in the amplifier?
Is raising the cable off the floor going to allow it to pick up radiation from a local radio station and if so is this not going to be worse than the capacitance between the floor and the cable?
How much capacitance is there between the cores of the cable and is this not going to be much greater than the capacitance between the cable and the floor?
If I fitted spacers they would be parts from a model railway set sold to construct a model power stations at the track side.
Yes indeed model pylons would make a much better talking point.
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