Yes I've used that before, quite useful, I think mine is around 10kHz, which is also where my hearing starts to tail off dramatically, although I can hear upto about 15kHz, just. It makes me think my tinnitus is probably connected with my learning loss.
More wishful thinking 😉 I know what you mean though. It's about how you are focusing, I've noticed it in myself and other people, again, it makes hearing tests of all kinds only marginally useful
I think Pano meant that critical listening is a skill that can be taught, learnt and practiced.
Chris
Chris
This is my favorite online tone generator for sure!
There are others though that allow you do sweeps; both log and linear. You can choose the min and max frequency of the sweep. For instance; you could sweep from 4 KHz to 8 KHz only. Some of them also display the exact frequency as they sweep.
Yes, what Chris said. Our hearing isn't just frequency response and thresholds, as important as those might be. A very large part of hearing is understanding and perception. That is skill.
A cabinet maker at 65 won't have the eyesight, the strength, the quick reflexes that he did at 20 years old. But will he be a better cabinet maker with 45 years of experience?
A cabinet maker at 65 won't have the eyesight, the strength, the quick reflexes that he did at 20 years old. But will he be a better cabinet maker with 45 years of experience?
Another thing that is quite obvious these days is that all of us unconsciously lip read and it aids in speech perception considerably. Now that many of the folks we interact with are masked it not only muddies up the audio channel but it blocks the visual channel. This is a serious disadvantage for me in trying to communicate as I think when your hearing fades you rely on this crutch more substantially.
Hi Kevin, it really depends on your culture, country, personality...in some culture not looking at the eyes when someone talk can be percevied by a lack of good education where elswhere it doesn't matter at all... also true sometimes according the country into this same country... I believe the automatic eyes mvts that can slipbetween the eyes and mouth are also brain learned from childhood so very cultural (ie: not natural)
Perhaps it's a good idea after an old bloke has done a recording/mix, to run it by someone younger who can still hear the subtleties of the brush strokes, yes I'm still talking about audio 😉 Better still, have one on hand while you're doing it?
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When my sister was very young she developed a significant hearing loss. When tested, she could not hear the doctor when he covered his mouth or turned his back. "I can't hear him" she said. Of course she had learned to read lips - and rather well. But she didn't know it. Her hearing was fixed and I suppose she lost her lip reading talent.
Some do, for sure. But there are many subtleties that are lost on young folk, they just haven't developed the skills to hear them.
Maybe some subtleties they won't hear, but they will hear the high frequency content that old folks won't
I use FR drivers and I try to "de-characterize" the driver toward a flat (as flat as I can make it...) frequency response. This seems to sound best to me.
Regarding live sounds, I can still instantly recognize the sound of an acoustic instrument when outdoors; riding a bicycle or walking. "That isnt someone's stereo" occurs often, so even with
-different FR in each ear
- tinn in just the right ear
- can no longer hear sounds I remember being there in certain recordings.
"live vs Memorex" is still a very real and striking phenomena for me. So I realize even after the rain of old age, there's still much room for the stereo to improve toward what I can still hear simply ordinarily. As I've mentioned before -
- some kid somewhere near the neighborhood is practicing his drums; "That's not someone's stereo".
- someone plucks a note on a uke as I'm riding through a parking lot on a bicycle "That's not someone's boom-box".
- The kid in the HS orchestra cracks the whip-slapper in Sleigh Ride. "Good luck reproducing that"
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Regarding live sounds, I can still instantly recognize the sound of an acoustic instrument when outdoors; riding a bicycle or walking. "That isnt someone's stereo" occurs often, so even with
-different FR in each ear
- tinn in just the right ear
- can no longer hear sounds I remember being there in certain recordings.
"live vs Memorex" is still a very real and striking phenomena for me. So I realize even after the rain of old age, there's still much room for the stereo to improve toward what I can still hear simply ordinarily. As I've mentioned before -
- some kid somewhere near the neighborhood is practicing his drums; "That's not someone's stereo".
- someone plucks a note on a uke as I'm riding through a parking lot on a bicycle "That's not someone's boom-box".
- The kid in the HS orchestra cracks the whip-slapper in Sleigh Ride. "Good luck reproducing that"
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I am not a medical doctor or a neuroscientist, but the following link is a discussion of auditory neural circuits which distinguish frequency. It is exactly in line with the topic, and may shed some light as to why, notwithstanding of auditory degeration with age, many sounds are still correctly distinguished.
Progress and challenges for understanding the function of cortical microcircuits in auditory processing | Nature Communications
Progress and challenges for understanding the function of cortical microcircuits in auditory processing | Nature Communications