Since it hasn't been mentioned, the official cabinet for the FF225K was the BK20, which is or was available from Madisound as a flat pack kit. RCA-Fan (Bill Woods) also tested his backhorn with the FF225K, in reality not just sims. IIRC he liked it, saying it was a bit on the mellow side. The plans are out there somewhere.
If you were happy with the back horn sound, it might be logical to consider these two options first?
I'd suggest going a little higher tuned with if building a Karlsonator for this, scaling .9 for height would be closer to the K'ator 8 plans. maybe increase port area. I don't like trying to squeeze too much low bass out of drivers if it's harmful to midbass oomph. Equally, I'd be a little concerned with weak mid/upper bass in a BIB with this driver. Probably room dependent. You say you've tried this combo?
The Xmax on these is unrelated to Xmech. They are nearly even wound I believe, like old Altecs.
If you were happy with the back horn sound, it might be logical to consider these two options first?
I'd suggest going a little higher tuned with if building a Karlsonator for this, scaling .9 for height would be closer to the K'ator 8 plans. maybe increase port area. I don't like trying to squeeze too much low bass out of drivers if it's harmful to midbass oomph. Equally, I'd be a little concerned with weak mid/upper bass in a BIB with this driver. Probably room dependent. You say you've tried this combo?
The Xmax on these is unrelated to Xmech. They are nearly even wound I believe, like old Altecs.
Right, they had some very distant similarities on that score (& may have been aesthetically 'influenced' by the LE8T).
IIRC, although they often found their way into the BK20, it wasn't the 'official' box for them -they only put out BR boxes on their site at any rate, although it may have been in the long out of print craft manuals (?).
IIRC, although they often found their way into the BK20, it wasn't the 'official' box for them -they only put out BR boxes on their site at any rate, although it may have been in the long out of print craft manuals (?).
I have made a BiB cabinet before, but that was with the Veravox 5S drivers and in a smaller room.
My room is an 'L' shaped room and about 200 sq. ft (18 sq. m) and 7.5 ft (2.3m) high:

IMGP1303 by RSdesignUK, on Flickr

IMGP1306 by RSdesignUK, on Flickr
Do you think the FF225K in BiBs may be a bit too big for that room?
I will do some more research into the Karlson boxes and the BK20.
My room is an 'L' shaped room and about 200 sq. ft (18 sq. m) and 7.5 ft (2.3m) high:

IMGP1303 by RSdesignUK, on Flickr

IMGP1306 by RSdesignUK, on Flickr
Do you think the FF225K in BiBs may be a bit too big for that room?
I will do some more research into the Karlson boxes and the BK20.
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>>> Do you think the FF225K in BiBs may be a bit too big for that room?
No. Place them in the corners and enjoy. They will replace the corner absorbers.
https://sites.google.com/site/speakerprojects/enclosures/bib
I just started setting up this site. Everything is under construction. On the above link you can download the BIB Calculator.
Zilla
No. Place them in the corners and enjoy. They will replace the corner absorbers.
https://sites.google.com/site/speakerprojects/enclosures/bib
I just started setting up this site. Everything is under construction. On the above link you can download the BIB Calculator.
Zilla
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from that link, I can download a spreadsheet, but it is locked and therefore will not calculate a new driver.
Bob
from that link, I can download a spreadsheet, but it is locked and therefore will not calculate a new driver.
Bob
Bob, the first two columns (B and C) are editable and should allow you to calculate new drivers. The other drivers are there as examples we worked on 'back in the day' when TC reintroduced us to BIBs. Please let me know if it works for you.
Thanks,
Zilla
Thanks,
Zilla
IIRC, although they often found their way into the BK20, it wasn't the 'official' box for them -they only put out BR boxes on their site at any rate, although it may have been in the long out of print craft manuals (?).
Could be. I saw it in the little info sheet that came with some FF125K I bought. IIRC there were plans for all the BK horns in it, as well as BR alternative enclosures. I'll see if I can dig it up, but it may have been tossed. This was some years ago, when they were still made in Japan.
>>> Do you think the FF225K in BiBs may be a bit too big for that room?
No. Place them in the corners and enjoy. They will replace the corner absorbers.
https://sites.google.com/site/speakerprojects/enclosures/bib
I just started setting up this site. Everything is under construction. On the above link you can download the BIB Calculator.
Zilla
Excellent, thanks 😀
Bob, the first two columns (B and C) are editable and should allow you to calculate new drivers. The other drivers are there as examples we worked on 'back in the day' when TC reintroduced us to BIBs. Please let me know if it works for you.
Thanks,
Zilla
TNX. i'll try that.
Bob
OK, I can enter a new driver into B,C, and Z. The remainder of the spreadsheet is locked. I recommend that you only lock D-Y, so I can save more than three new drivers.
Bob
Bob
Bob, the first two columns (B and C) are editable and should allow you to calculate new drivers. The other drivers are there as examples we worked on 'back in the day' when TC reintroduced us to BIBs. Please let me know if it works for you.
Thanks,
Zilla
TNX. i'll try that.
Bob
The FF225Ks are here:

Fostex FF225K by RSdesignUK, on Flickr
And comparison to the Veravox 5Ss:

Fostex FF225K & Veravox 5S by RSdesignUK, on Flickr

Fostex FF225K & Veravox 5S by RSdesignUK, on Flickr
😀

Fostex FF225K by RSdesignUK, on Flickr
And comparison to the Veravox 5Ss:

Fostex FF225K & Veravox 5S by RSdesignUK, on Flickr

Fostex FF225K & Veravox 5S by RSdesignUK, on Flickr
😀
Well, I knocked some baffles together this morning after hearing the FF225Ks in a mates system in OB yesterday. Sounding really good I have to say!

Test Baffle #1 Fostex FF225K by RSdesignUK, on Flickr

Test Baffle #1 Fostex FF225K by RSdesignUK, on Flickr

Test Baffle #1 Fostex FF225K by RSdesignUK, on Flickr
I think this maybe the way to go rather than a BiB!

Test Baffle #1 Fostex FF225K by RSdesignUK, on Flickr

Test Baffle #1 Fostex FF225K by RSdesignUK, on Flickr

Test Baffle #1 Fostex FF225K by RSdesignUK, on Flickr
I think this maybe the way to go rather than a BiB!
Glad to see these went to a good home 😉. If you're enjoying the OB sound maybe it'll be worth experimenting with aperiodic enclosures where you can hopefully keep the open sound quality but with increased bass response. Some irregular enclosure shaping might give the very best results, I was surprised at the difference that a single sloping enclosure wall could make with full-range drivers.
Ah Hi, I think I will stay down the OB route, really liking what I am hearing at the moment.
Got some Fountek JP2.0 Ribbons to try after hearing the FF225Ks with some RAALs that was a lovely match.
Got some Fountek JP2.0 Ribbons to try after hearing the FF225Ks with some RAALs that was a lovely match.
Very nice looking drivers, the Veravox too. 🙂
I can't say I'd ever see these in open baffles with such a low Qt though. Was there a helper woofer in that setup?
IG
I can't say I'd ever see these in open baffles with such a low Qt though. Was there a helper woofer in that setup?
IG
No, running naked. It supprised me the reasonably good bass I am getting considering the specs.
The plan is for some sort of helper bass driver (Eminence Alpha 15 etc) at some point.
The plan is for some sort of helper bass driver (Eminence Alpha 15 etc) at some point.
inrank, I simmed your project using Thorsten's old (and excellent) open baffle spreadsheet. I think you will be pleased with the sim. Add bass help and you will have something really special (and maybe a piezo or some other kind of helper tweeter - probably just need a 1uf or 1.5uf cap and you're done). Easy and great, enjoy!
Zilla
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