planet10 said:
Hi Dave,
That is what I thought. I was using my work email an it probably looked like spam. I just wanted to know how much they are (127). If you don't mind can you post the price here. Like I mentioned they were originaly going into the Fonkens but ended up in the BIBs to break in. So I need another pair anyway. I am making the Fonkens for the the kids room right now and they are helping to make them. Can't wait to see what they sound like.
And just to repeat from a very satisfied customer: the standard drivers are great. But Dave's mods elevate them into another league entirely. They're worth every penny.
planet10 said:
Hi Dave,
The price looks good. Now I just have to find a way to get my info to you. I will try to use the wifes email to see if that will work. Talk to you soon,
John
I've a zillion email addresses.... and i have a toll-free telephone number.
On the planetsofta web page.
dave
On the planetsofta web page.
dave
I done it!!!
...and lived to tell the tale!
Having the luxury of a fried driver to practice on gave me the courage to 'butcher' my 126's.
There was some glue on the inside of the VC tube, but cutting approx 1/8" off the end of the tube removed this.
I initially left the 'nibs' as suggested earlier, but then I experimented with the 'dead' driver a little further, and managed to remove these completely without hitting wire, so crossed my fingers and did the same on my 'best' drivers, with no ill-effects.
The result? Much more refined and detailed treble (albeit a little less of it).
A mod worth doing IMHO.
PS Apologies to Dave - I 'borrowed' your Dammar mod and redid it in Mod Podge (I didn't have any Dammar!).
...and lived to tell the tale!
Having the luxury of a fried driver to practice on gave me the courage to 'butcher' my 126's.
There was some glue on the inside of the VC tube, but cutting approx 1/8" off the end of the tube removed this.
I initially left the 'nibs' as suggested earlier, but then I experimented with the 'dead' driver a little further, and managed to remove these completely without hitting wire, so crossed my fingers and did the same on my 'best' drivers, with no ill-effects.
The result? Much more refined and detailed treble (albeit a little less of it).
A mod worth doing IMHO.
PS Apologies to Dave - I 'borrowed' your Dammar mod and redid it in Mod Podge (I didn't have any Dammar!).
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Re: I done it!!!
What is Dammar mod for the speaker I have been hearing about. Is there a website re this?
thanks,
gychang
dfreemansc said:
What is Dammar mod for the speaker I have been hearing about. Is there a website re this?
thanks,
gychang
I will be adding a web page with more info & better pics, but for now the beta mod is outlined on the full-range forum.
http://fullrangedriver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=535
and a tiny bit more here
http://www.planet10-hifi.com/fostex.html
dave
http://fullrangedriver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=535
and a tiny bit more here
http://www.planet10-hifi.com/fostex.html
dave
That is a brave mod, kazoo. Can you describe how the sound has changed? I have a pair of FE127's I built using plans from the Timinator, and they sound great, but could maybe be a little less crashy. I was thinking phase plugs might be the answer, but I don't want to lose any top end.
dhumke said:
Do the mods shown on Dave's site (Planet 10) for the FE127; don't worry you won't lose any top end. Cone treatment and basket damping are very easy and worthwhile for this driver.
Jeff
dhumke said:
Hi dhumke,
The phase plug seemed to smooth out the high frequencies. I did not notice loosing any top end. They just seem easier to listen to after the phase plug. Also I want to do the mods Dave has on his site and see how much more the drivers will improve.
John
Thanks, guys. I have been recently exposed to the "full Range Phenomenon" and am totally amazed. I have an Onkyo ss HT receiver, and with some CD's I still occasionally get up to make sure it's in stereo mode, because I'm hearing music on the sides and behind me. It sounds better than most stuff mixed for 5.1 surround, because it’s so natural. I went to a high end stereo shop with a few of my really good CD's, and listened to some ridiculously expensive systems. One system they had set up cost $150,000, (!!??) and the imaging and soundstage was nothing like the $37 Fostex’s. I kind of feel like I must be delusional, or something.
Has anyone else been down this road, and can you recommend other CD’s that have that quality? I have found Pink Floyd DSOTM, Llewellyn - Mysts of Avalon to be two of the best.
Dave
Has anyone else been down this road, and can you recommend other CD’s that have that quality? I have found Pink Floyd DSOTM, Llewellyn - Mysts of Avalon to be two of the best.
Dave
FE-126E Phase plug
The curiosity got the better of me today, and I put knife to dustcap on a pair of FE-126e in my Frugel-horns.
I cut around the dustcap about 2mm up (that's somewhere between 1/16" and 1/8") and trimmed to the edge of the voicecoil former.
There was some black glue most of the way around the inside of the voicecoil former. I cut this away with a sharp pointed surgical knife. Sealed the fibres around the edge with ModPodge to finish the job.
Until I get in touch with a guy in Canada to send me a couple of cedar tree phase plugs, I made my own temporary ones from 3/4" steel pipe and plastic caps 😀
SveinB
The curiosity got the better of me today, and I put knife to dustcap on a pair of FE-126e in my Frugel-horns.
I cut around the dustcap about 2mm up (that's somewhere between 1/16" and 1/8") and trimmed to the edge of the voicecoil former.
There was some black glue most of the way around the inside of the voicecoil former. I cut this away with a sharp pointed surgical knife. Sealed the fibres around the edge with ModPodge to finish the job.
Until I get in touch with a guy in Canada to send me a couple of cedar tree phase plugs, I made my own temporary ones from 3/4" steel pipe and plastic caps 😀
SveinB
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At the rate you guys are going, Scott is going to have to make some more of these for me.
The original FE127 proto plugs turned out to be perfect for the FE108eS, so we made some up for 108s, now that you guys have figured out how to successfully operate on 126s & 127s they can be put to there original purpose.
Yellow Cedar (light), yellow cedar (dark) & 1 set walnut. George gets 1st pick -- althou with the black drivers he might want a black set.
dave
PS: any more discussion specifically of my plugs should move over to my AVB thread.
The original FE127 proto plugs turned out to be perfect for the FE108eS, so we made some up for 108s, now that you guys have figured out how to successfully operate on 126s & 127s they can be put to there original purpose.
Yellow Cedar (light), yellow cedar (dark) & 1 set walnut. George gets 1st pick -- althou with the black drivers he might want a black set.
dave
PS: any more discussion specifically of my plugs should move over to my AVB thread.
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I didn't know you did black.
The black would work best with the black cone treatment. Could you send me...umm...what color was that now?
George
The black would work best with the black cone treatment. Could you send me...umm...what color was that now?
George
Phase plug for FE126e
I installed the long (108eS) version of Planet-10's phase plug on my FE126E drivers.
I think however that the shorter FE103 plug would be better suited for the FE126e. The long version protrudes about 1/8" in front of the speaker surrounds.
It could be that the FE126E and FE127E are slightly different since the 127 is shielded.
SB.
I installed the long (108eS) version of Planet-10's phase plug on my FE126E drivers.
I think however that the shorter FE103 plug would be better suited for the FE126e. The long version protrudes about 1/8" in front of the speaker surrounds.
It could be that the FE126E and FE127E are slightly different since the 127 is shielded.
SB.
Re: Phase plug for FE126e
It is possible... with these little drivers our goal was to have have plug extend just past the front. I can send you a set of shorter plugs if you'g like to try them out.
How do they sound?
dave
Svein_B said:
It is possible... with these little drivers our goal was to have have plug extend just past the front. I can send you a set of shorter plugs if you'g like to try them out.
How do they sound?
dave
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